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Top set IP, is it too thin to value OTR?
almofadinhas
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August 5, 2017 - 12:02 pm
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Hello TPE!

Wondering if I have lost value on this one. Apreciatte your thoughts!!

Poker Stars, $10 Buy-in (2,400/4,800 blinds, 600 ante) No Limit Hold’em Tournament, 7 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager – The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: 32,126 (6.7 bb)
BB: 113,752 (23.7 bb)
MP1: 50,421 (10.5 bb)
MP2: 70,518 (14.7 bb)
MP3: 123,097 (25.6 bb)
CO: 190,926 (39.8 bb)
Hero (BTN): 157,160 (32.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with Aspade Aheart
2 folds, MP3 raises to 9,600, CO folds, Hero calls 9,600, 2 folds

Flop: (30,600) Adiamond Tdiamond 7spade (2 players)
MP3 bets 11,934, Hero calls 11,934

Turn: (54,468) Kclub (2 players)
MP3 bets 19,200, Hero calls 19,200

River: (92,868) Jheart (2 players)
MP3 checks, Hero bets 33,432, MP3 folds

Results: 92,868 pot
Final Board: Adiamond Tdiamond 7spade Kclub Jheart
MP3 mucked and lost (-41,334 net)
Hero mucked Aspade Aheart and won 92,868 (51,534 net)

I called pre IP because there was two stacks that can shove pre flop, and i underrep my hand.

OTT I am unsure, I don´t think V will stack off with gutshot and flush draw, if V has two pair doesn´t matter much, I can GII OTR; What if the turn is a J or Q and V shove?

P.S.: On my notes this is a final table, that may be wrong, blinds too small.

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I like the way you played pre and on the flop. 

However I hate the turn play. For me it is a must check-raise. With the amount of draws on the board, you should protect your hand. 

Any Q, any T and any diamond on the river would be a disaster for you. That’s 30% chance of bad river. When villain bets the turn, in the pot there is 70k, you’ve got 130k behind. I wouldn’t like to lose that pot by slowplaying too much, especially if that’s a final table. Also, you can get some value from KJ or some strong draws. 

If villain shoves the turn, that’s fine for me. You are behind QJ only, and even against that hand, you have 10 outs. 

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yeah, you are probably right, I am failing miserably to identify this spots where I should stop with the slowplay.

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I don’t mind your line. There’s really only a tiny number of diamond combos and Qx/Jx combos in villain’s two-barrel range, so I’m not super concerned about villain sucking out once we just peel the turn. I think the fact that we block most of villain’s value on the turn and they might fold some fairly strong hands when QJ is part of our range means the turn call is fine.

River seems pretty good, it’s really hard for you to have bluffs here but it’s also really hard for villain to have much Qx. I think betting to try to get called by TT/77/KK/KT etc is fine as long as you perceive villain to be calling here with those hands. That said, against some spewy villains I don’t mind betting super tiny to induce bluffs here – something like 10k, maybe. Your line seems fine, though.

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