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top pr horrible kicker, wt is my play?
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February 4, 2011 - 12:07 am
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Really weird spot! Bttn limps, I flop top pr horrible kicker. Really felt I have to float flop with such a small bet. Turn is where I got confused. Should I be raising to find out where I am in the hand or calling down? After reviewing HH I do realize that my raise was too small. If I was gonna raise I should be making it 1150 and then shoving river. Does any1 agree or should I float flop and and chk/fold turn. Btw, I know I made a terrible fold on river. I think I was kinda embarrassed atm.

 

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Poker Stars $2.00 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t100/t200 Blinds – 6 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

Hero (BB): t4381 21.91 BBs
mr.magooz (UTG): t5038 25.19 BBs
gastongas (MP): t5439 27.20 BBs
maxx254 (CO): t5974 29.87 BBs
surla (BTN): t8875 44.38 BBs
xeniavaggeli (SB): t1700 8.50 BBs

Pre Flop: (t300) Hero is BB with Q of spades 5 of clubs
3 folds, surla calls t200, 1 fold, Hero checks

Flop: (t500) 8 of diamonds Q of hearts 6 of clubs (2 players)
Hero checks, surla bets t200, Hero calls t200

Turn: (t900) 3 of diamonds (2 players)
Hero checks, surla bets t400, Hero raises to t885, surla calls t485

River: (t2670) 4 of clubs (2 players)
Hero bets t995, surla raises to t1990, Hero folds

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February 4, 2011 - 12:58 am
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i prolly would have check called all streets. 

 

your c/r on the turn is just spew imo, c/c for pot control is fine. 

 

on the river if you want to lead small then you can b/f but it costs you a lot less if you dont raise turn

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February 4, 2011 - 1:21 am
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with the initial line you took I think you should be check calling the river.  I don't really like the ckraise on the turn, imo you should check fold the river after this play, it seems like he is sucking chips into the pot with a big Q or a set.  The way you played it you should have folded to his second barrel on the turn, it would have been better to put pressure on a limper by raising pre and leading the flop, abandoning if you meet resistance after that.  Otherwise, like benny said, the check raise on the turn is kinda spewy when you are pretty sure you are behind in the hand already

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February 4, 2011 - 10:46 am
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Yeah I would have lead the flop for info and shut down if called looking for a cheap showdown. Your C/r on the turn isn’t believable imo. Another point is that you asked ‘should I be raising to se where I am’…as a general rule if you are unsure of where you stand in a hand you shouldn’t be raising. Bet for information, raising for info is generally a waste of chips. This will depend on other dynamics and opponent history of course but its good practice in most spots when you are unsure.

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February 4, 2011 - 3:10 pm
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bennymacca said:

i prolly would have check called all streets. 

 

your c/r on the turn is just spew imo, c/c for pot control is fine. 

 

on the river if you want to lead small then you can b/f but it costs you a lot less if you dont raise turn


I like this line the best…..don't mind a small b/f on river either as it's very unlikely he is going to bluff/raise you on river.

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February 4, 2011 - 3:15 pm
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bennymacca said:

i prolly would have check called all streets. 

 

your c/r on the turn is just spew imo, c/c for pot control is fine. 

 

on the river if you want to lead small then you can b/f but it costs you a lot less if you dont raise turn


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