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almofadinhas
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March 19, 2018 - 6:09 pm
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Hello TPE!!!

Long time away, missed this forum. cool

I am reviewing this tournament that I have played last week, and I am a bit unsure about my line OTF:

Poker Stars, $5 Buy-in (300/600 blinds, 70 ante) No Limit Hold’em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager – The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: 22,897 (38.2 bb)
Hero (BB): 14,680 (24.5 bb)
UTG+1: 19,635 (32.7 bb)
UTG+2: 32,489 (54.1 bb)
MP1: 56,281 (93.8 bb)
MP2: 46,225 (77 bb)
MP3: 10,472 (17.5 bb)
CO: 6,328 (10.5 bb)
BTN: 10,823 (18 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 2heart Aspade
UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 raises to 1,200, MP1 folds, MP2 calls 1,200, 4 folds, Hero calls 600

Flop: (4,530) Aclub 2club 3spade (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG+2 checks, MP2 bets 1,800, Hero?

I am at this tables for 2 hands, no idea of who the V is, doing my review now i gave him the following ranges:

pre flop calling range: 169 hands
JJ-44, 3d3h, 3d3c, 3h3c, 2d2s, KJs+, QTs+, J9s+, T8s+, 97s+, 87s, AdQd, AhQh, AdJd, AhJh, AdTd, AhTh, Ad5d, Ah5h, Ad4d, Ah4h, Ad3d, Ah3h, Ad2d, KJo+, QJo, AdKh, AdKs, AdKc, AhKd, AhKs, AhKc, AdQh, AdQs, AdQc, AhQd, AhQs, AhQc, AdJh, AdJs, AdJc, AhJd, AhJs, AhJc, AdTh, AdTs, AdTc, AhTd, AhTs, AhTc

raising range when checked to OTF: 111 hands
JJ-44, 3d3h, 3d3c, 3h3c, 2d2s, AdQd, AhQh, KsQs, KcQc, AdJd, AhJh, KsJs, KcJc, QsJs, QcJc, AdTd, AhTh, QsTs, QcTc, JsTs, JcTc, Js9s, Jc9c, Ts9s, Tc9c, Ts8s, Tc8c, 9s8s, 9c8c, 9s7s, 9c7c, 8s7s, 8c7c, Ad5d, Ah5h, Ad4d, Ah4h, Ad3d, Ah3h, Ad2d, AdKh, AdKs, AdKc, AhKd, AhKs, AhKc, AdQh, AdQs, AdQc, AhQd, AhQs, AhQc, AdJh, AdJs, AdJc, AhJd, AhJs, AhJc, AdTh, AdTs, AdTc, AhTd, AhTs, AhTc

range for calling the reraise or 3bet all in: 52 hands, folding for the reraise backdoor draws and lower pairs (JJ-44)
3d3h, 3d3c, 3h3c, 2d2s, AdQd, AhQh, KcQc, AdJd, AhJh, KcJc, QcJc, AdTd, AhTh, QcTc, JcTc, Jc9c, Tc9c, Tc8c, 9c8c, 9c7c, 8c7c, Ad5d, Ah5h, Ad4d, Ah4h, Ad3d, Ah3h, Ad2d, AdKh, AdKs, AdKc, AhKd, AhKs, AhKc, AdQh, AdQs, AdQc, AhQd, AhQs, AhQc, AdJh, AdJs, AdJc, AhJd, AhJs, AhJc, AdTh, AdTs, AdTc, AhTd, AhTs, AhTc

Hero raises to 4,727, UTG+2 folds, MP2 calls 2,927

So I was a bit confused about a call oop or a reraise (and how much), so I decided to go for a small reraise. Ideas on this? Bet sizings, flop and turn lines… etc

Turn: (13,984) Kdiamond (2 players)
Hero bets 8,683 and is all-in, MP2 calls 8,683

River: (31,350) 6heart (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: 31,350 pot
Final Board: Aclub 2club 3spade Kdiamond 6heart
Hero showed 2heart Aspade and won 31,350 (16,670 net)
MP2 showed 8club Kclub and lost (-14,680 net)

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March 20, 2018 - 6:51 pm
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Ordinarily I would say that your raise sizing needs to be a little bigger, since your raising range on the flop is reasonably polarized, but since you’re fairly shallow and can still jam turn once you get called, I think your sizing is okay.

At this stack size you’re not really in a position to slowplay a strong-but-vulnerable hand. There are definitely some bad turn cards that can kill your action and the last thing you want is to fold away a bunch of equity or fail to get max value. I think raising flop is necessary and good.

You’re basically forced to jam all turn cards – villain is unlikely to have much 5x or 4x in their bet-call range so a four-straight isn’t too scary, and if you think villain is 3-bet shoving some club draws versus your flop raise then even a club turn isn’t particularly scary. Ultimately you’ll have two pair on the turn in a roughly 1:1 SPR spot, so you have very little choice but to jam all turns. If you do decide there’s a particular turn card that nails your opponent’s bet-call flop range, it becomes a check-fold, but that’s unlikely.

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March 22, 2018 - 4:40 pm
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If you’re planning to jam most/all turns (which is reasonable), there may be a case for just jamming flop. Will you ever be looking to check-raise-fold this flop? I’m guessing no.

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March 28, 2018 - 12:18 pm
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Yeah, it’s probably not a bad idea at all to just shift to an all-in c/r sizing now that I think about it more. It’s pretty large but anything smaller is unwieldy.

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