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October 16, 2015
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Hi, I played this hand recently:
https://www.jivaro.com/profile/ColdZer0/posts/5671defc9e4d88ee12e5fb43/
I min-raise from the small blind and get 2x 3-bet from the big blind
When I just flat with my QJo and the flop comes QJT i’m pretty sure he’s going to c-bet every single time so I just check-raise to protect against a K, A or 9 on the turn, he had a 17% 3bet percentage (even though just in a small sample size) and especially blind vs blind I’d expect him to 3 bet very light
Turns out he had a set of 10s.. is this shove too aggressive? or was I just unlucky?
Hope someone can explain if theres a better way to play this, thanks!
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December 6, 2012
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Dude you’ve got top two pair and an SPR of 2, it’s a very very straight-forward check-shove on the flop. “Protection” shouldn’t really be the first thing on your mind, either, even though it is relevant. You’re ahead of hands Villain will bet-call, such as AA, KK, and AQ.
June 11, 2012
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not a fan of a min-raise BvB. i prob c/jam pre.
as played c/jam flop and make a note that he does not reshove 18BB TT BvB. Which means he is prob 3betting super polar if he has a 17% 3betting frequency
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August 25, 2012
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Also not a fan of minraising BvB. I like limping preflop here, whether I call/jam/fold versus a raise depends on sizing and range.
Check-jamming flop is necessary as others have pointed out. Not even close.
What’s more important is that you titled this thread “top 2 vs set” – it doesn’t matter that the villain had a set. You didn’t know that when playing, and you couldn’t have been expected to know that. Don’t give us information about what the villain actually had, because it’s not important. It just sounds like you’re berating yourself for running into a better hand – you’re suggesting you should have found a way to get away from it. In reality, if you ‘got away’ from this one it would be a big mistake. Don’t focus on results.
December 18, 2015
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I want to add what theginger45 said here in his last paragraph since that has to do with the mental game of poker. I was and still am that ‘guy’. Tilting now and again because of a ‘result’. In the heat of the moment, he’s right. You don’t know what he had when playing nor expect to know it. How you play the hand matters most as it was pointed out.
To help me to get this part of poker, I take a similar lesson from my trading. “You don’t know or will ever know what the market will do. You plan your trade based on what the market is telling you to do based on the information you do know.”
Top 2 pair is like having to green bars of market rallying. You ‘check’ to see what the market will do, then buy long or in poker, shove! Got it! 😀
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