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To satellite or not to satellite
OneTime1Time
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May 11, 2014 - 12:52 pm
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That is the question I'm facing this fine sunday morning.

 

I'm going to play the 2100$ SCOOP event 23 H today. Made that decision this morning when I woke up. The question is if I should bother trying to satellite into it or just buy in directly. Buying in directly is definitely not good bankroll management, but I have never been one to really be concerned with that. I can afford to play, so I'm going to take a shot. 

 

I have only recently seen much success from sats, so I'm on the fence of if I should try. I just know that if I bust the sats, I'm going to reg anyways, and that puts me into the tournament for more than I would be if I had just reg'd it. 

 

Currently, I'm trying to run like god in hypers so I can justify reg'ing the 700$ deadline sat to attempt to recoup my buy in, while planning to outright reg the event as well. I definitely see some major gaps in this plan, but I'm ok with that.

 

So, any thoughts on what route I should take?

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May 11, 2014 - 1:06 pm
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You're thinking about this the wrong way. Your decision to play the satellites should have nothing to do with whether or not you're going to play the tournament, and vice versa: …..d-3834.htm

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Thanks Andrew, that was a great article. 

 

I think I've always inherently known sats weren't the best option, but lately I have been playing more of them and having better success in them. Probably should consider a better approach of playing sats for the value that can be gained from them, and not for a specific tournament. 

 

See you at the tables, or rather.. I hope not to see you at my table unless it's the last one.

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Andrew's article is obviously the place to go for info on satellites, but I thought I'd step in and point out a few mental game 'red flags' in your post. I hope this doesn't sound a little harsh or unwarranted.

“I've never been one to be concerned with good bankroll management” – red flag. BRM is crucial.

“I can afford to play, so I'm going to take a shot” – red flag. 'Taking a shot' should always be based on more variables than whether you can afford to play or not.

“I'm trying to run like god” – red flag. Trying to run good is 100% guaranteed to fail, because you don't control whether you run good or not. Nothing you do makes any difference to how good you run.

“So I can justify regging” – red flag. You shouldn't need to justify it in any way other than how +EV it is.

“Attempt to recoup my buyin” – red flag. Recouping your buyin should be less of a priority than making the best decisions possible to help you win the tournament.

“I definitely see some major gaps in this plan, but I'm okay with that.” – red flag. This is the worst one. You're effectively just closing your eyes and praying it turns out okay.

 

Frankly, you're talking like a gambler, rather than a poker player. I think you should reconsider any plans to play high-stakes events until you've ironed out some of these mental game flaws, because they're only going to hinder your ability to make the best decisions possible at the table, and lower your EV in the long term.

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There is absolutely no doubt that I was in a “gamble” mode. 

While I do find some of your response harsh, I have no qualms with it at all. It's often good to see our words spun to see exactly what they are saying, instead of just what it sounds like in my head. Some of what I said probably comes out wrong, or at least not in the way I'm intending it. 

While I do feel as if I should reply to make myself not look like such a gambling fish, I don't want to diminish the potential learning from your reply that myself and other players may get from it. 

One thing I do want to ask though, in your opinion: Is there an inflection point where BRM changes based on the type of player you are. I read an article about good BRM on TPE, so I know there are some factors that matter. I'm more curious about an in depth idea though. Where is the line difference between a pro that plays to put food on his table and the profitable rec player who plays for the enjoyment/challenge of the game? 

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