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April 5, 2014
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Villian has been more than a little fishy.
I Get the walk in the big blind and check top pair as there is really no reason to bet here. When he shoves I know he is weak because he has made this same move a few times before and that is why he has 8bb.
With my stack should I fold top pair no kicker to a 7bbshove? Overall a loss here really isnt going to effect our stack greatly but neither will a win.
Merge - $0+$0|<> NL - Holdem - 8 players Hand converted by PokerTracker 4 CO: 20.35 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 20) BTN: 57.58 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8) SB: 276.89 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8) Hero (BB): 50.93 BB UTG: 8.37 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8) UTG+1: 43.35 BB (VPIP: 12.50, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8) MP: 33.03 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3) MP+1: 42.33 BB (VPIP: 37.50, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8) 8 players post ante of 0.1 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB Pre Flop: (pot: 2.3 BB) Hero has 3
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UTG calls 1 BB, UTG+1 calls 1 BB, fold, fold, fold, BTN calls 1 BB, fold, Hero checks Flop: (5.3 BB, 4 players) T
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Hero checks, [color=red]UTG bets 7.27 BB and is all-in[/color], fold, fold, Hero?
May 4, 2014
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UTG's range is really wide and includes a ton of hands that beat you. Save the chips.
December 11, 2013
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Never folding here. Villain has a suuper wide range here which includes worse made hands, draws, very few better made hands, 2 overs, and maybe even a fair bit of complete air. I could def see villain shoving 7x or 6x here all day. Also, if you check flop and one of the villains with a much larger stack bets and others fold, I think this is a decent spot for a checkraise. There are very few Tx combos out there and I doubt most players are limping JJ+ or even 66+. A bet on this flop from any villain is probably heavily weighted towards hands with equity that are currently worst.
November 17, 2013
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Agree with doug…with the stack sizes and folds it looks like a snap call.
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December 6, 2012
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f34rl3sS said:
UTG's range is really wide and includes a ton of hands that beat you. Save the chips.
How many hands does it include that don't beat Hero? Presumably a lot, if it is “really wide”. Outflopping top pair isn't easy to do. This strikes me as a very easy call.
May 4, 2014
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His range probably includes more hands than I gave him in this, but I just putz around with stove a bit and came up with this.
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 52.077% 50.39% 01.68% 128216 4283.00 { Td3c }
Hand 1: 47.923% 46.24% 01.68% 117648 4283.00 { 77-22, A7s-A2s, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, T5s+, 95s+, 85s+, 75s+, 65s, ATo, KTo, QTo, JTo, T7o+, 95o+, 85o+, 75o+, 65o, 54o }
I guess we're barely ahead of that range.. why would it always be a call though? Is 8 hands enough of a read to go with this here? Hes shoving in a fishy spot, yes, but into 3 other players..
November 17, 2013
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It doesn't have anything to do with stats (from my perspective) but rather the stack sizes involved. What hands would you call here with? What if the shove was for 5bb?
November 17, 2013
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I would also edit the range that you posted because I think it includes quite a few hands villian would have shoved pre…
May 4, 2014
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I figure maybe ATo he would have shoved pre, maybe some of the other pairs, maybe KQs KQo. Hard to tell readless. What range do you think he's capable of having here?
June 24, 2012
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First off you should really you the hand convertor on this site to convert your hands, the way you have is very messy, a hard read and its diffcult to see what you have. I think you have T3o and if so you should just fold this preflop its complete trash. Yes its only a min raise but you need to flop two pair to make it any way reasonable which is somethin like 50 to 1. Its flopped about as good as it can and look at the trobule it gets you in. Its sounds like your quite new to the game so try to make things easy for yourself post-flop by playing a solid range pre-flop.
As played its an easy call, your own analysis has told you this. Your even money against his range and your layed 12.5/7 or 1.7 to 1.
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December 6, 2012
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f34rl3sS said:
His range probably includes more hands than I gave him in this, but I just putz around with stove a bit and came up with this.
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 52.077% 50.39% 01.68% 128216 4283.00 { Td3c }
Hand 1: 47.923% 46.24% 01.68% 117648 4283.00 { 77-22, A7s-A2s, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, T5s+, 95s+, 85s+, 75s+, 65s, ATo, KTo, QTo, JTo, T7o+, 95o+, 85o+, 75o+, 65o, 54o }
I guess we're barely ahead of that range.. why would it always be a call though? Is 8 hands enough of a read to go with this here? Hes shoving in a fishy spot, yes, but into 3 other players..
You only need 37% equity to call this shove. Folding when you are a slight favorite, or even a slight dog, would be a disaster. You also don't need a read to go with this. Folding isn't necessarily the default play in the absence of a read. You just have to do your best to create a realistic range with whatever information you have, which in this case is virtually nothing. But you shouldn't just assume your opponent has the nuts any time you don't have a read.
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