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October 30, 2015
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This is a $22 buy-in $500 GTD 6-max Turbo on Bwin (Party Poker). We’re ITM. 4 players paid, 3 players remaining. 3rd gets $100. 2nd gets $200. 1st gets $300. Villain here is a very competent reg, who I’ve seen around the site (high stakes cash, high stakes HU SnG’s and medium MTT’s) and have some history with.
We’ve been 3-handed in this tournament for a while now (probably about 40 hands). The reg is in the BB while a weak passive fish is in the SB. SB was chip leader 3-handed at one point, but his tight action preflop since 3-handed has had me constantly tangling in a lot of pots with this reg in the BB. Because of this, I felt constantly like the winner of this tournament was going to be decided primarily by me knocking out villain or villain knocking me out, either 3-handed or heads-up.
To this point, I’ve 3bet the villain a decent amount throughout the hands in this tournament. Usually, he’s either outplayed me while he’s IP post-flop, or 4-bet a few times and taken it down pre. I haven’t shown I’ve wanted to take gambles.
3-handed, he’s been pretty much flatting (or 3betting) in the BB every time I open-raise, but usually just flats.
Hero (BTN): 383,792 (VPIP: 38/31/11 over 170 hands)
SB: 259,452 (VPIP: 47/26/9 over 78 hands)
BB: 346,756 (36/24/9 over 188 hands)
3 players post ante of 2,000
SB posts SB 6,000
BB posts BB 12,000
Pre Flop: (pot: 24,000) Hero has 6
K
Hero raises to 24,000, fold, BB calls 12,000
Flop : (60,000, 2 players) T
9 6
BB checks, Hero checks
Turn : (60,000, 2 players) 2
BB checks, Hero bets 20,000, BB raises to 75,423, Hero calls 55,423
River : (210,846, 2 players) 9
BB bets 245,333 and is all-in.
What do you do? (And/or would you have played any part of the hand differently?)
February 20, 2015
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Shorthanded and ICM situations aren’t my strength. I’m just saying stuff till someone better replies.
I’d observe the HUD numbers are good for showing relative aggression, but not absolute. The reason is because most of these hands are probably from the final table, which just gets shorter and shorter. If you had someone at 36/24 at a 9-handed table, it would have a very different meaning. All the HUD stats tell me is you’ve been slightly more aggressive, but with this few hands, it’s hard to know how significant it is.
The SB is fishier, as you’ve observed (and he does flat more vs. raising than the two of you, so I believe it). An open question is whether it’s better to let him continue to blind down instead of letting him ladder into second while the two of you fight it out. He still has 21 bigs, so he probably doesn’t see himself as needing a sense of urgency or to change his playing style, because less experienced players don’t think they’re short stacked until it’s too late, yeah?
If the BB is flatting you more than you think is correct, have you considered a bigger raise pre? If everyone is minraising, even a 2.2x raise may dissuade flatting out of the BB. I’m still learning about gameflow concepts, although sometimes KB talks about it on Twitch, and it’s helping me a lot. The theory I apply here is when you surprise someone, they freeze up, and they’re much more likely to retreat to a position of safety, which would be folding. There’s nothing scary about a minraise if everyone is minraising.
What is your thought process on the flop? Are you checking behind to pot control? I know I c-bet too much, but I wonder whether weak aces flat from the BB and float the flop. That’s my value target with a c-bet.
As played, on the turn I check behind and reevaluate the river, probably calling a bet if a fourth heart doesn’t hit. I have showdown value and not much more.
As played, I fold the river because of the continued strength shown from V. I don’t think a check/raise followed by a shove is a bluff I want to try to catch.
Looking forward to others’ responses!
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August 25, 2012
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Everything is fine until the turn. I really don’t like your bet here, since K6 is somewhere in the middle of your range and you don’t stand much of a chance of either getting any value from worse hands, or getting better hands to fold. The only thing you might get to fold is a random one-heart hand that has some kind of equity, but in reality I would expect villain to lead out with a decent heart some % of the time.
Once you get check-raised, continuing is a big mistake. Villain’s range includes a fair number of hands that have you drawing stone dead (flushes, maybe the occasional straight), and plenty of hands that have good equity versus you (any two overcards with a heart, any straight draw with a heart). There are a ton of river cards that will leave you facing a really awkward decision since it’s quite a dynamic board, so you’re going to be in this spot a lot of the time.
On this particular river I think you do have some 9x in your range, so that makes it easier for you to fold weaker hands – you can approach the spot with a strategy of calling with 9x or better and folding worse, to stay a little less exploitable. As it is, if you’re calling with K6 you’re basically playing all your 6x this way and calling, and if that happens you’re calling way too much here and giving villain’s valuebets a ton of value.
The turn bet is the key mistake, followed by the turn call – you just don’t need to be putting yourself in tough spots like this. Check turn >>> Bet-fold turn >>>>>>> Bet-call turn. Fold river >>>>>>> Call river.
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