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Would have folded pre not wanting to play oop to 16/14 3bettor – if the 3bet was larger and i wasnt getting such great odds after BB shoves.
My thinking was call flop bet and evaluate turn, probs giving up on a lot of turns, but when I pick up so many draws I decide to go for the win… Was summin like 4 out of 11, and would have become big chip leader if I took it down on the turn.
Gotta go with it, or a little spewy?
Full Tilt Poker $12,000 KO Guarantee No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t4000/t8000 Blinds + t1000 – 6 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter
ghanges (UTG): BB = 38.8, t310326
MP: BB = 41.6, t332725
CO: BB = 11.7, t93216
BTN: BB = 21.6, t172464
SB: BB = 30.4, t243207
BB: BB = 4.0, t32283
Pre Flop: (t18000) ghanges is UTG with J
Q
ghanges raises to t17555, MP raises to t27110, 3 folds, BB requests TIME, BB raises to t31283 all in, ghanges calls t13728, MP calls t4173
Flop: (t103849) J
5 T (3 players – 1 is all in)
ghanges checks, MP bets t89000, ghanges requests TIME, ghanges calls t89000
Turn: (t281849) 9 (3 players – 1 is all in)
ghanges requests TIME, ghanges bets t189043 all in…
Really tough spot. MP is almost daring u to crack his AA. With that 3bet sizing, he almost never has JJ, QQ, or AK. Maybe he shows up w KK sometimes, but at this
stage of the tourny, I would think he would also 3 bet bigger w that.
But I guess the point of the hand, like u said, is wether u can ever fold to that tiny 3bet pre. I cant see it. It's just really tough bec u know u usually have to see five cards w most
favorable flops.
If a club didnt come on the turn, was there any chance u ch/f to a strong bet? If not, then maybe a flop ch/r all in is better than ch/c – getting that last bet in is usually best.
Curious to see if anyone folds to that 3bet pre here.
Any reads? Whats the dynamic between you and him? Depending on reads and dynamic there are a lot of options flat/4bet/fold. Just looking at it as is I def don't mind flatting his tiny 3bet to try and smash a flop and stack him but his large cbet on the flop and min 3bet pre really narrows his range to AA maybe KK i could be off here……this is a tough spot, is folding the flop an option? As played no way am i folding with that turn card i would get it in at that point. Def an interesting hand 
mmfitter said:
If a club didnt come on the turn, was there any chance u ch/f to a strong bet? If not, then maybe a flop ch/r all in is better than ch/c – getting that last bet in is usually best.
this is where I think I played it bad, on the flop. I was going to give up on tunrs that didnt provide me with lots of outs, and like you say, that makes the flop bet pretty bad. I think I was hoping he woudlnt continue if I floated. But agree cr was probs better move on flop….
I dont think we can ever fold to min 3bet after BB adds his stack in then mix, just not so sure I played flop so well
DroppinDimes said:
Any reads? Whats the dynamic between you and him? Depending on reads and dynamic there are a lot of options flat/4bet/fold. Just looking at it as is I def don't mind flatting his tiny 3bet to try and smash a flop and stack him but his large cbet on the flop and min 3bet pre really narrows his range to AA maybe KK i could be off here……this is a tough spot, is folding the flop an option? As played no way am i folding with that turn card i would get it in at that point. Def an interesting hand
Reads – as mentioned he's playing 16/14, and seems like he's tightened up a bit recently – certainly not 3betting a lot, I have been pretty agg, but not getting too outta line. Thought occurred to me that he's misclicked (mainly cos I min raised accidently in the same session due to multi tabling). Defo putting him on a strong hand (QQ+, AQs+, AKo) he's not 3 betting light.
I've gotta call with such great odds pre
Flop – hate folding, even if a large part of his range are over pairs.
Dont like raising that much more, as I dont have a massive amount of equity and have to basically put him on a cbet bluff
Calling not ideal but a lot of turn cards we pick up loads more equity, just not sure the stack sizes make this great…. if i give up on blank turn, then I'm leaving myself with 189k – 23bb. Worth speculating if we gonna leave ourselves this short?
Had just been giving myslef a chat about going for the win, not missing good ops etc Seemed like it was worth it……
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