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Tight Opp..Smooth calls...I 3bet..Opp 4bet Jams
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June 10, 2010 - 10:27 pm
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold’em, 4.4 Tournament, 250/500 Blinds 60 Ante (7 handed) – Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

CO (t41444)
Button (t14714)
SB (t26853)
Hero (BB) (t24746)
UTG (t38426)
MP1 (t18202)
MP2 (t41639)

Hero’s M: 21.15

Preflop: Hero is BB with J, J
2 folds, MP2 bets t1500, 2 folds, SB calls t1250, Hero raises to t5250, 1 fold, SB raises to t26793 (All-In), 1 fold

Total pot: t12420

 

 

 

 

What should I do? Based off my Subject description

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June 10, 2010 - 10:38 pm
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i could see folding or calling, I think both will show pretty similar longterm results (I prefer a fold if he’s tight).  What I think the big deal is here is this: if you’re not sure what you’re going to do when facing a 4-bet, DON’T 3-BET.  When 3-betting, have a plan.  “I’m 3-betting here with the intention of getting it in vs. x opponent, folding to Y opponent if they happen to shove.”  If this guy is noticeably tight then we probably shouldn’t be 3-betting in the first place, especially with a hand like JJ, that doesn’t do spectacularly vs. a tight players’ 4b range.

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June 10, 2010 - 11:18 pm
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plessis204 said:

i could see folding or calling, I think both will show pretty similar longterm results (I prefer a fold if he’s tight).  What I think the big deal is here is this: if you’re not sure what you’re going to do when facing a 4-bet, DON’T 3-BET.  When 3-betting, have a plan.  “I’m 3-betting here with the intention of getting it in vs. x opponent, folding to Y opponent if they happen to shove.”  If this guy is noticeably tight then we probably shouldn’t be 3-betting in the first place, especially with a hand like JJ, that doesn’t do spectacularly vs. a tight players’ 4b range.


 

The only read that I have on this guy is…He likes to ISO shove QQ

 

So it just seemed like AA or KK

 

What do you think?

 

 

Ohh also if the original played back at me I was going in….the guy on my left, it looked suspicious that he smooth called I figured if he 4bet I would have to get away b/c that looks SO STRONG.

 

The original raiser had been super loose so I had a plan for him and had a plan for the guy on my right that did 4bet me….So I did have a plan

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June 11, 2010 - 12:30 am
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It appears I misread the hand.  I was thinking the opener 4bet.  Seems like a pretty easy fold if it’s a cold 4bet.

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I get the sense he was planning to trap the OR and then when you raised he figured he can jam now.  They will think you’re squeezing but really don’t have this kind of bluff in their arsenal.  I’d fold.

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Thanks for the input guys….Just wanted to verify my choice….Seemed good to me to fold but I wanted to get a second opinion

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