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Three interestimg preflop spots + ICMIZER for MTTs?

EstoEsPenarol

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November 6, 2014 - 8:52 pm

Hey there,

Id like to use this post to clearify a doubt regardin software that might stop me from future posts regarding preflop spots depending on the answer:

I checked this spots on ICMIZER but Im unsure about its functions regarding MTTs. I use it everyday for SNG spots but never did it for MTTs and I think that there are some others things to consider here that might make me wanna deviate from what the soft says?

On the first one im interested in knowing about villains (Frank Inori) shove with 86s. Is it ev+? When should I do it? Which ideal villains I want on the blinds? Why not MR/fold? Which stake sizes do I want to shove this into? Why? I think its a high variance spot but is good if you have little edge on a reg infected table playing back at you (wow, sounds like a nightmare jajaja).

The second one is a spot on a satellite for the Big 75, kinda early on. What yous think about it?

Finally the third one happend when there were 30/35 remaining players on a $2,2+R on stars with something around $600 for the first one. I think is ev+ and I just ran into top of his range?

This thing of shoving vs mr/fold gives me headaches!! Its been months now since Im trying to figure it out and still cant fully get it!

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FIRST ONE

Poker Stars $15.00+$1.50 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t200/t400 Blinds + t50 – 8 players – …..ds/2605735
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

canthobb (BB): BB = 11.8, t2350
oscosc (UTG): BB = 15.6, t3129
NNLagos (UTG+1): BB = 25.5, t5102
Hero (MP): BB = 14.3, t2855
XITÃ�OZINHO (CO): BB = 24.8, t4968
IShadrin (BTN): BB = 21.5, t4297
MIndaugasG (SB): BB = 21.3, t4266

Pre Flop: (t475) Hero is MP with T of spades J of clubs
2 folds, Hero raises to t2830 all in, 4 folds
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THIRD ONE

CCuster 911

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November 10, 2014 - 12:21 am

Hand 1: This is very complex and hard to answer with the information given(whether his shove is right). I can answer some of your other questions though.

You want to shove when you have a lot of fold equity, but moreso when you will also be shoved over a lot or defended agasint from the blinds if you just min raise. You will get shoved on, in genreal, by LAG players, and short stacks. When SB has a big stack but is covered by BB, you wil find a minraise puts him in a tricky spot(as with a shove, but hsi range is fiarly striaght forward when you shove). Since he has to worry about nthe person behind him, he may elect to not try to play back, which is good.

With that ~14 BB stack I am mn riasing the top and bottom of my opening range and shoving the middle. Shoving is probably marginally +EV at most tables. But I think min raising is slightly better and a higher % of tables. But being able to adjust toy our table is important.

Second hand is close but probably a fold for me(maybe not a fold but not shoving). Suited is probably fine. I may just min raise suited TJ, but I am also somone who will min with shallow stacks more than people are comfortable with. Its part of my style.

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November 10, 2014 - 2:59 am

Agree with all of the above on both hands, except for if we were suited in hand 2 I would probably just jam.

As far as ICMIZER goes, what you need to remember is that all of the questions you're asking about hand 1 are simply other ways of analysing the profitability of the hand, and ICMIZER will tell you the exact profitability of the hand if you're able to estimate the calling ranges behind you. The trouble comes when estimating the degree of profitability you demand from a shove.

I wrote an article a while back about profitability thresholds in MTTs, and I've since expanded my use of the concept to utilise the information I have about my own edge at each stack size in terms of EVbb/100 numbers over a large sample. Essentially what it means is that if risking a certain amount of chips costs us a certain amount of future edge, knowing how big our average edge at that stack size is can help us to identify what level of profitability we should demand from our plays in order to justify them. An example would be shoving a 20bb stack to gain a 0.1bb profit – it might be a profitable shove, but is it profitable enough? ICMIZER can help you make these decisions.

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