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August 10, 2012
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In the 100k rebuy at sugarhouse in pa on wed when following hand came up…….7 handed – blinds 300-600 50 ante……under the gun raises to 2200 WITH $12000 behind…. folds to me on the button and I flat $2200 with 9-10 clubs………small blind moves in for $12000 and the opener just calls the $9800 leaving him $2200 behind ……action to me costing me $9800 laying me approx. 3-1 to call ……..I started the hand with 33k ……..do you lay down here knowing that the most you could lose is $2200 more……curious to see responses…………results to follow
June 2, 2013
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I dont play live poker, but if it was online I probably fold pre flop, such a big raise seems to me that the V is trying to induce action, and even more with the flat call on the sqz.
I guess i fold after the sqz too, i dont give utg a wide range for it, i think most of the time he will be on JJ+, could be wrong tow.
September 12, 2016
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Just one man’s opinion here, but in a tourney that I’m doing well in (as I think you’re 33k stack suggests for the level in the tourney you are) – I don’t know that I sacrifice 20BB here knowing that in some way – one of these two players have JJ+ at least…you’re a big dog here and yes you’re getting 3-1 on the call but up against 2 other players your equity goes down below 30% I would imagine…I think this is a fold and wait for a better spot…
February 20, 2015
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I wonder whether the effective stacks are too shallow to play such a speculative hand.
September 29, 2012
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I would not call the first raise. The stacks are too shallow to play this hand in my opinion. When there is a 3 bet shove and it returns to us, it becomes a math problem. We need to call 9.8k to win 27.2k. We need 26% equity to break even.
We have two ranges. Range one for the SB is a 3 bet over an EP range and a call. 77+ and AJ+ makes up most of this range. We should also add in a few random bluffs for accuracy. Range two is mostly premium hands. Our equity against those two combined ranges is:
UTG 49.86% { JJ+, AKs, AKo }
BU 23.05% { T9s }
SB 27.09% { 77+, AJs+, A9s-A6s, J8s, T7s, 96s, 85s, AJo+ }
How wide do we need to make the ranges to get the right equity to call?
UTG 44.96% { 99+, AQs+, AQo+ }
BU 24.65% { T9s }
SB 30.38% { 77+, AJs+, A9s-A6s, J8s, T7s, 96s, 85s, AJo+ }
Still not enough equity to call.
Increasing the SB range now:
UTG 45.83% { 99+, AQs+, AQo+ }
BU 24.79% { T9s }
SB 29.38% { 77+, A6s+, KJs+, QJs, J8s, T7s, 96s, 85s, AJo+, KQo }
Still short. It’s appearing we may have to expand the ranges too far to be realistic to give the right pot odds to call.
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