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thoughts on a ambitious bluff here?
folding_aces_pre_yo
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December 16, 2014 - 3:18 pm
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#Game No : 646177464
***** 888poker Hand History for Game 646177464 *****
$25/$50 Blinds No Limit Holdem - *** 
Tournament #64425694 $3.60 + $0.40 - Table #36 9 Max (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: xowiec ( $4,250 )
Seat 2: RR7SMW ( $5,641 )
Seat 3: SorvachevR ( $962 )
Seat 4: london_ace ( $8,000 )
Seat 5: snaffex ( $4,943 )
Seat 6: Th3Pok3rM3n ( $4,965 )
Seat 7: satisfhy_you ( $4,227 )
Seat 9: superuser888 ( $8,412 )
Seat 10: drewy18 ( $4,018 )
Th3Pok3rM3n posts small blind [$25]
satisfhy_you posts big blind [$50]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to london_ace [ Qdiamond, Kdiamond ]
superuser888 folds
drewy18 folds
xowiec folds
RR7SMW raises [$175]
SorvachevR folds
london_ace calls [$175]
snaffex folds
Th3Pok3rM3n folds
satisfhy_you folds
** Dealing flop ** [ 9spade, Tclub, 9club ]
RR7SMW bets [$318]
london_ace calls [$318]
** Dealing turn ** [ Tspade ]
RR7SMW checks
london_ace bets [$425]
RR7SMW calls [$425]
** Dealing river ** [ Aheart ]
RR7SMW checks
london_ace bets [$1,433]
RR7SMW calls [$1,433]
** Summary **
london_ace shows [ Qd, Kd ]
RR7SMW shows [ Ad, Kc ]
RR7SMW collected [ $4,777 ]



 

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Reads - V is a passive fish , although they can be pretty aggresive too.
 
I decided to float on the flop , i just think this flop hits my range more then Villians. When Villian checks turn they turn their hand pretty face up , in other words i was able to cap their range here , hands like AK/AQ maybe AJ  77/88 planning to check/give up. 
 
when v calls my turn bet ,  i discounted strong hands from their range i think they've got marginal hands and maybe draws which they may decide to play passivly, on the river although this is not a great card for me , i also think it's unlikely that villian c/c turned with a hand like Ax, i think by betting big on the river will probably get them of those hands anyway.
I also think it's unlikely v will c/c turn with bigger pairs like JJ+ then again they may be trying to pot control with those hands, i'd consider those hands marginal.
 
I decided to bet 3quarters of the pot , im now wondering do you think a shove would be better against this opponent? 
 
against bettter players i think my sizing is okay as played.
 
 
 
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I don't get why you want to bluff here at all. Several of the bluff targets you mention on the turn are hands that are drawing dead against you, and it's awfully ambitious to think you're going to get him off of what you seem to think is the very top of his range.

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i posted results by accident by the way ,I guess you're right Andrew , I'm trying so hard here to improve my game , trying to be creative and if i was going to use the bluffing scale in regards to this hand i'd say if we made a raise on this flop , the chances of v folding would probably be a 3.5. Since this flop really does hit our range rather then Villians.

 

also don't you think we could call flops and raise a lot of turns as a bluff and represent a flush , like for instance if the turn was Kclub

 

or do u just prefer to check give up…

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folding_aces_pre_yo said:

i posted results by accident by the way ,I guess you're right Andrew , I'm trying so hard here to improve my game , trying to be creative and if i was going to use the bluffing scale in regards to this hand i'd say if we made a raise on this flop , the chances of v folding would probably be a 3.5. Since this flop really does hit our range rather then Villians.

 

also don't you think we could call flops and raise a lot of turns as a bluff and represent a flush , like for instance if the turn was Kclub

 

or do u just prefer to check give up…

If you want to be creative as you say, I would suggest being creative at later levels rather than at 25/50, since the chips that can be won are far more substantial. Watch some Bigdog early-stage vids and you'll see what I mean.

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