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The Big $11 99 in sb vs lp limper
micahkg
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February 26, 2012 - 4:51 pm
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No particular read on this guy…. do you guys like flop c bet? do we keep barrelling the turn? do you think he would raise the turn with a set? Think we can discount bigger overpairs based on action pre, so we give 22-77 that beats us and flush draw w/overs type hands and air that we beat…. 

 

Poker Stars $10+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t100/t200 Blinds + t25 – 9 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

heddis (UTG+2): BB = 35.6, t7120
alba14143 (MP1): BB = 69.3, t13864
hannes_os333 (MP2): BB = 16.4, t3284
jokill6stone (CO): BB = 23.4, t4676
xtoufftaffx (BTN): BB = 15.1, t3025
Hero (SB): BB = 51.1, t10220
zico46 (BB): BB = 37.1, t7420
mtsacoman (UTG): BB = 30.6, t6110
sanebby (UTG+1): BB = 14.9, t2980

Pre Flop: (t525) Hero is SB with 9 of clubs 9 of hearts
3 folds, alba14143 calls t200, 3 folds, Hero raises to t575, 1 fold, alba14143 calls t375

Flop: (t1575) 6 of clubs 3 of hearts 4 of hearts (2 players)
Hero bets t815, alba14143 calls t815

Turn: (t3205) 5 of diamonds (2 players)
Hero bets t1745, alba14143 raises to t3490, Hero ?

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February 27, 2012 - 1:10 am
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folding.  Behind all those sets and a ton of suited connectors that pealed a flop.  Unless he floated flop with 77, 88, A6hh or complete air with the plan to raise your very strong looking turn donk your behind in this spot 98% of the time.  If he picked this exact spot to put a super high variance bluff raise good for him.  He’s most likely not limping 77 or 88 so that leaves A6hh that you are beating or AhXh (overs& fd) that he decided to risk his potent draws equity by raising which would opening himself up to having to fold if you raise.  

 

Hands that limp call here are 22-77 so often and occasionally suited connectors 45, 56, 78 all have you beat as well.  He could have very few hands you are ahead of here.  Bet/fold this turn>check/fold this turn>bet/call this turn.  Maybe I’m giving too much respect to a personally unknown villain which I don’t mind doing when the line looks 2pr+ strong and I’m holding 99.  

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February 27, 2012 - 4:34 pm
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Firstly, i would raise more pre oop. This is a scary flop which smacks his range in the face – i would c bet and when the 2 on the turn comes i would shut it down.

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February 27, 2012 - 6:53 pm
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SJOHN11 said:

Firstly, i would raise more pre oop. This is a scary flop which smacks his range in the face – i would c bet and when the 2 on the turn comes i would shut it down.

Agree w/ all this^^, I like to raise a bit more when i'll be playing the hand OOP, like 700ish in this spot.

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February 27, 2012 - 9:47 pm
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*5 on turn

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February 28, 2012 - 5:07 am
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I think you can safely make a generalization about these player types that limp and don't like folding to a 3b. If they don't hit the flop they generally fold to a cbet.  When they play back at you, it's very rarely a bluff.

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February 28, 2012 - 11:33 am
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I like to have a bigger bet Pre as others have indicated. That will polorize the range abit OP post so you may know if you are ahead or not. The flop would definately not be a cbet opportunity. It would be a fold imo. The line the MP has taken on each street does scream they weren't bluffing.

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February 28, 2012 - 3:39 pm
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ez fold. limp callers pre generally wont flat flop and minR turn with anything but the nizzles or close to it. esp on a board like this. and i usually raise pre too, esp if i know the limper to real fishy cuz we are way ahead of his limping range….but i dont hate just completing the sb at times too cuz i dont wanna build too many big pots oop for the most part. its only something i been working on lately so i dunno, i could be wrong and raising pre is 100% mandatory.

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