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jnd11011
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March 23, 2011 - 1:08 pm
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the guy to my left is running  56/4 over only 25 hands, has shown down K8s in early pos

the BB is 43/14 over 7 hands

not alot of hands but they played some pots

 

 Poker Stars $3.00+$0.30 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t40/t80 Blinds – 9 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

leaoportugal (SB): t2440 30.50 BBs
Levvos (BB): t6830 85.38 BBs
Hero (UTG): t1702 21.27 BBs
pico751 (UTG+1): t2160 27 BBs
benyk13 (UTG+2): t3810 47.62 BBs
metroide2010 (MP1): t3300 41.25 BBs
shpongle12 (MP2): t2725 34.06 BBs
pouyoutte (CO): t9105 113.81 BBs
cincinatus72 (BTN): t4685 58.56 BBs

Pre Flop: (t120) Hero is UTG with 9 of clubs 9 of spades
Hero raises to t160, pico751 raises to t320, 1 fold, metroide2010 calls t320, 4 folds, Levvos calls t240, Hero raises to t1702 all in

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March 23, 2011 - 2:22 pm
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Your play is fine.

One thing to keep in mind is that he is running 56/4, meaning he is not raising a lot. A guy 3betting me that just always limps (alarm bells). It is a small sample of hands but I bet somewhat accurate. Sometimes I just flat the 3bet here and go from there since my read is that he has a hand and is not folding to a 4bet jam.

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March 23, 2011 - 3:03 pm
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yeah, i like it too based on stacks, stats, history, etc.

Im getting it in pre pretty much 100% of the time here.

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I agree shoving is best, however Hawk raises a good point about the villians stats.  It def seems like he is a station who likes to flat and see flops.  A very small 3bet does seem somewhat scary from this type of player but with 2 other flatters I am getting it in.  I think flatting isn't the best option as we are now just trying to set mine.  Theres no way we can continue on a flop like Q 10 2 with 3 callers.  Folding just seems to nitty with your stack and especially with 2 flatters.  I like the way you played it. 

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No problem set mining with 7/1 odds since youre almost getting the exact expressed odds you need to do it.

I don’t like the shove too much since your hoping the stats of the 3 bettor ARE NOT representative of his actual range, coz if they are your crushed far too often.

If he’s only raising 4% then his 3 betting range is super nitty, maybe 2%? Which gives him JJ+ AK And gives you 33% to win against that range.

Plus you raised UTG and he 3bet UTG +1 and it was practically clicked back. To me this looks super strong. I rarely if ever see people do this with AK so for me his range is less weighted to that hand and more to AA KK.

Based on my interpretation of the villains stats, his scary bet size, the position of mine/his raises and my actual pot odds Im always calling to set mine here.

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March 23, 2011 - 4:47 pm
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I also like the flat to set mine, or you might even be able to take away the pot with a bluff in some spots. 

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G0liath said:

No problem set mining with 7/1 odds since youre almost getting the exact expressed odds you need to do it.

I don't like the shove too much since your hoping the stats of the 3 bettor ARE NOT representative of his actual range, coz if they are your crushed far too often.

If he's only raising 4% then his 3 betting range is super nitty, maybe 2%? Which gives him JJ+ AK And gives you 33% to win against that range.

Plus you raised UTG and he 3bet UTG +1 and it was practically clicked back. To me this looks super strong. I rarely if ever see people do this with AK so for me his range is less weighted to that hand and more to AA KK.

Based on my interpretation of the villains stats, his scary bet size, the position of mine/his raises and my actual pot odds Im always calling to set mine here.

I like this reasoning but with only 25 hands to go on I can't rule out the possibility of a 56/4 guy in a $3 tourney just doing some random bs everynow and then.Have you raised some pots recently(especially in early pos.)? I think with all the dead money in the pot  and our stack size this is +ev and I'm getting it in.

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March 23, 2011 - 6:21 pm
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ty all  i thought it was the right move just wanted to see

well they both called, guy on my left had AQo n the BB had KQo  flop was Q hi i lose, gg

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