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T8s on BB 20bigs
almofadinhas
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April 28, 2016 - 6:57 pm
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Full Tilt, 250/500 blinds, 50 ante No Limit Hold’em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager – The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: 26,690 (53.4 bb)
Hero (BB): 10,158 (20.3 bb)
UTG+1: 43,108 (86.2 bb)
UTG+2: 17,850 (35.7 bb)
MP1: 20,018 (40 bb)
MP2: 8,864 (17.7 bb)
MP3: 11,400 (22.8 bb)
CO: 18,480 (37 bb)
BTN: 17,249 (34.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Theart 8heart
2 folds, MP1 raises to 1,000, MP2 folds, MP3 calls 1,000, 3 folds, Hero calls 500

Flop: (3,700) 3heart 3club Aheart (3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks, MP3 checks

Turn: (3,700) Adiamond (3 players)
Hero bets 1,365, MP1 folds, MP3 calls 1,365

River: (6,430) 8diamond (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets 8,985 and is all-in, Hero folds

Results: 6,430 pot
Final Board: 3heart 3club Aheart Adiamond 8diamond
Hero mucked Theart 8heart and lost (-2,415 net)
MP3 mucked and won 6,430 (4,015 net)

I am still messing up spots like this, need thoughts here smile. No reads.

So Can I be calling here oop? I am having about 7:1 to call, I will have ~18bbs left if I do call, and I am playing oop against two. Should I call if was versus one opponent? or two is aceptable too? I am having watching some of Andrew´s videos and he defends some of this calls.

OTF I have FD on A33 board, check call (like half pot) good? or check raise better because of the stack? If original raiser has cbet, and the other buy calls, am I more inclined to call or to fold? A3, 33 or AA is hard for caller n MP3 right? AA more than A3 or 33 for sure. Or should I lead flop?

OTT I just go for a small raise trying to get the pot, once called I am basically giving up, not sure if I should bet with another heart there, probably yes, because better flush bet flop, 3x or Ax raise flop too; A3, 33 or AA can slowplay flop tow…

Thoughts?

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April 28, 2016 - 7:30 pm
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Looks good to me, why don’t you think you messed something up? Folding pre-flop would be a big mistake.

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Foucault said
Looks good to me, why don’t you think you messed something up? Folding pre-flop would be a big mistake.

I am not that confident in my line sometimes, I keep asking myself if I should lead, check raise, check fold, check call, and imagining scenarios in my head before action happen, “what do I do then? and then? and then?…”

There is any number of players I would not be good to call in situations like this? like agains 6 players, call 1bb, T8s can´t flop that good, imagining our hand need to be stronger versus more players, I probably don´t play for stack on a AT8 board for example. But then there is some nicer flops, I was picturing nicer flops and this is probably a call very happy too, but I will leave the question anyway smile

You are awsome Andrew!!

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April 28, 2016 - 10:45 pm
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You’re right that you’ll win less often in a 6-way pot, but you’re also getting much better odds. You can afford to be more selective getting 14:1 or whatever.

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Why bet the turn? Are we just stabbing at the pot with the intention of giving up?

If so we are turning our hand into a bluff as I think we may not be good a good percentage of the time even if we hit our draw in the river. With that in mind once the stab fails I think it is ok to give up.

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chaos said
Why bet the turn? Are we just stabbing at the pot with the intention of giving up?

If so we are turning our hand into a bluff as I think we may not be good a good percentage of the time even if we hit our draw in the river. With that in mind once the stab fails I think it is ok to give up.

Well if we check the turn and one of the remaining players to act makes a bet we can’t call on a 33AA board with a flush draw, and he could himself be bluffing holding a hand that can’t win a showdown. At the same time we can’t expect to ever be good with 10 high. So if we check on the turn we give up right there but by betting we give us a chance to win the pot. I think this is a good spot to attempt a small bluff.

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So Can I be calling here oop? I am having about 7:1 to call, I will have ~18bbs left if I do call, and I am playing oop against two. Should I call if was versus one opponent? or two is aceptable too? I am having watching some of Andrew´s videos and he defends some of this calls.

Yeah I think a call is good here. It’s cheap and I would defend with this quite often. 

almofadinhas said

OTF I have FD on A33 board, check call (like half pot) good? or check raise better because of the stack? If original raiser has cbet, and the other buy calls, am I more inclined to call or to fold? A3, 33 or AA is hard for caller n MP3 right? AA more than A3 or 33 for sure. Or should I lead flop?

If someone bets I much rather just call on this board, you have nothing going for you except the FD. I would be more inclined to go for the checkraise option if the board texture was a bit different, like 933hh or 733hh. Those boards will often give us extra outs besides the flush draw and makes it more likely that a check raise semi-bluff will work.

I don’t think leading the flop is a good play at all. What will you do if someone raises big behind you? You have to fold a hand that has a good draw.
Reverse the question. What hands, that you would continue with if getting raised, would you ever lead with on this board? 

That’s how I try to approach these spots. While being balanced isn’t as important if you are playing microstakes, a play that doesnt make sense might even make bad players raise their eyebrows. 

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Nice post, rabbhit.

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