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Sunday storm(11$) 59bb effective JJ co vs sb 40/80 blinds

MadBaltic

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July 15, 2013 - 12:34 pm

What do you do? 🙂 Late registered, 11 hands on the guy 27/20. Has already 3b from the co.

Poker Stars $10+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t40/t80 Blinds – 9 players – View hand 2259649
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

UTG+1: t5285 66.06 BBs
UTG+2: t5060 63.25 BBs
MP1: t3802 47.52 BBs
MP2: t1055 13.19 BBs
Hero (CO): t4910 61.38 BBs
BTN: t8220 102.75 BBs
SB: t4748 59.35 BBs
BB: t6967 87.09 BBs
UTG: t6358 79.47 BBs

Pre Flop: (t120) Hero is CO with J of spades J of clubs
5 folds, Hero raises to t199, 1 fold, SB raises to t600, 1 fold, Hero raises to t1280, SB calls t680

Flop: (t2640) Q of hearts T 4 of clubs (2 players)
SB bets t1600 Hero?

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July 15, 2013 - 7:14 pm

I probably just call pre, but 4-betting seems fine too, and seeing that he's actually just flatting the 4-bet it looks like 4-betting is def better; pretty strange the way he's played it, and I think I just pile the flop (looks like after a call you'd only have 1500ish?)

I just don't see why he would ever donk lead a Qx or better. Flop does really suck as it seems like he should have a lot of Qx in his peeling range (AQ, KQs maybe even like QJs sometimes). Idk he probably does take this retarded looking line a bit with a Q, but I guess he could also have flush draws or maybe Tx somehow. Idk it sucks but I don't think I'm folding.

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July 15, 2013 - 9:36 pm

I'd probably flat the 3bet pre and evaluate from there

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July 15, 2013 - 10:06 pm

His post flop sizing is off. How does it compare to his previous hands? The only three reasons I can see to bet big on a flop like this is: semi bluff with a straight flush draw, top pair chasing off a straight flush draw, and a strong made hand (two pair etc) trying to make it look bluffy. So with possibly tainted outs, I’m not sure I could continue, but then, I am fairly fishy…

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July 16, 2013 - 10:51 pm

This lead is just so weird. He's clearly committing himself, why is he not check-shoving here? Have you seen him donk-lead before? If we just consider his 3bet/call range, I imagine you're about even against his range, but does he donk-lead his good hands or his bad ones? I think I fold. If you are ahead, he probably has 5-10 outs, and if you are behind you have 2.

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July 17, 2013 - 6:07 am

I don't fold, crazy situation but I expect most of the times I'd be up against someone just clicking buttons and call off here unless the board runs out really bad (then again I'm a station who doesn't like folding:P)

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