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April 17, 2011 - 11:03 pm
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Poker Stars $200+$15 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t400/t800 Blinds + t50 – 9 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

ADAMR69309 (SB): BB = 53.0, t42435
Pet_CoLd. (BB): BB = 23.0, t18437
repz221 (UTG): BB = 20.7, t16520
caps42 (UTG+1): BB = 13.5, t10785
Chris333KK (UTG+2): BB = 18.5, t14797
Hero (MP1): BB = 36.3, t29030
Pepelinho (MP2): BB = 70.1, t56089
ARGENDOUGLY (CO): BB = 33.6, t26853
IgorFederal (BTN): BB = 49.7, t39764

Pre Flop: (t1650) Hero is MP1 with J of clubs J of hearts
1 fold, caps42 calls t800, 1 fold, Hero raises to t2790, 4 folds, Pet_CoLd. raises to t18387 all in, caps42 calls t9935 all in

 

Ok – so caps42 does not seem good. He's kinda loose passive and limped UTG and UTG+1 before and bet out at an A high flop taking it down.

He limps here with 13 bigs and i decide to play for stacks with him, i figure he has a lot of Ax's and some pairs hes scared to raise and have to play OOP with.

The BB seems the loosest at the table, 3betting frequently in position and has once shown down KK after 4bet jamming (to which he lost 40k to QQ)

 

My intention is to always get it in with UTG here but the BB INSTA-ships his stack in

UTG guy tank calls for about 35seconds

 

How does the fact that the BB gets in here alter my thinking about getting my stack in?

I dont usually play these stakes at all – but insta jamms at lower levels usually mean AK or AQ and mid pairs+

And what do i make of the tank call by the UTG player?

 

thoughts?

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April 17, 2011 - 11:58 pm
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My question to you is what is your table image? If they percieve you as tight or loose can totally affect my thoughts in this spot.

From the information that I have. We know that UTG and UTG+1 limps with short stacks could always be limp/3bets with KK or AA even though u said this guy is awful. However, what I am paying the most attention to is that your 3bet on the limper has to look strong being 3.2x or so from middle position. Since you look strong, I am giving the BB shove more credit here because he has to think u call a decent percent of the time. With that said, if the you perceive him as loose and 3 and 4bet happy then maybe you could make the hero call thinking he is squeezing for a big pot. I give him credit though, you seem strong and it doesnt feel like a move. I am interested in the results.

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April 18, 2011 - 6:08 am
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yeah im def one of the tighter ones at the table

evidenced by me getting pushed off a few pots post flop

and yes my raise of the UTG limper did look strong, i obv took that into account aswell

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April 20, 2011 - 12:18 am
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fyi hawkeye

I did find a fold

Crazy guy had AKs and UTG had KK

Flop Axx, turn x, River binked J

I am just curious to think that if this was my regular stakes of play would i have called here? ie was i playing with scared money? and would anyone who does play higher stakes than me call here?

If given another situation i would still fold though

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April 20, 2011 - 2:15 pm
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Really hate going against 2 shoves with JJ. I play JJ like it is 99. Saves me alot of grief. Hate to fold JJ but think you are better waiting for better spot. Plus you have 36bbs not need to risk 2/3 of you stack. JMO.

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April 20, 2011 - 5:22 pm
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Good fold. It's tough..But the BB shove is basically a 4 -bet as we have 3-bet to 3.3ish and it looks very strong from MP.

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