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Sunday Major FTP AQ facing cold4b shove on a tough table
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February 3, 2015 - 6:02 pm
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Hey all,

 

long time no posts. this one bother me bit and i used all my time bank

 

OR is 28/26 with 21% raise first in EP on 170hands

i am CL at this time with 29/26 11% 3bet with higher % IP

 

BB is 29/18 150hands

 

pay outs:

$33,866
$23,128  
$17,363  
$13,216  
$9,582
$6,773  
$4,956  
$3,800  
$2,808

 

Full Tilt Poker Game #35222807113: The Sunday Major (286530105), Table 35 – NL Hold'em – 10000/20000 Ante 2500 – 03:39:23 CET – 2015/02/02 [21:39:23 ET – 2015/02/01]
Seat 1: evenkeal777 (222,145)
Seat 2: xqsays (376,707)
Seat 3: j__thaddeus (636,571)
Seat 4: florianm666 (1,103,665)
Seat 5: Assad91 (960,106)
Seat 6: Besen (293,292)
Seat 7: setherson22 (392,678)
Seat 8: apestyles (416,800)
Seat 9: MATEBATOP (554,036)
evenkeal777 antes 2,500
xqsays antes 2,500
j__thaddeus antes 2,500
florianm666 antes 2,500
Assad91 antes 2,500
Besen antes 2,500
setherson22 antes 2,500
apestyles antes 2,500
MATEBATOP antes 2,500
Besen posts the small blind of 10,000
setherson22 posts the big blind of 20,000
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to florianm666 [Qc Ac]
apestyles folds
MATEBATOP raises to 40,000
evenkeal777 has 15 seconds left to act
evenkeal777 folds
xqsays folds
j__thaddeus folds
florianm666 has 15 seconds left to act
florianm666 raises to 91,911
Assad91 folds
Besen folds
setherson22 has 15 seconds left to act
setherson22 has requested TIME
setherson22 raises to 390,178, and is all in
MATEBATOP has 15 seconds left to act
MATEBATOP folds
florianm666 has 15 seconds left to act
florianm666 has requested TIME
florianm666 ???

i need 35% on the call.

 

whats the range he is doing it?

 

do you call given there are 4 very good opponents (marked in red) at this table

 

thanks for input

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Call.

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I call knowing that setherson can have a wide-ish range here. If his range is only 99+, AQ+ we have 41% equity. His range can also include some other suited connectors, lower pairs etc.

 

If you dont have a plan for facing a 4bet from either the original opener or someone behind, why are you 3betting?

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i was getting it in vs OR as i 3bet him a lot.

 

what made me think how light setherson is really in this spot. i think TT+, AK would be a no brainer call

there were only 3 good players in his eyes at the table. rest incl me were fish i would assume.

especially the other fishy player were all pretty nitty and clearly wanted to ladder up.

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Setherson is good enough to pick up on you 3betting the original opener quite a lot and would adjust his range to be wider, especially from the BB where there is only 2 players left to act.

I think you are overthinking this spot as Setherson having too tight of a range.

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With ICM I don't think Setherson is getting it in especially light here, but as has been pointed out, vs 99+ AQ+ we have roughly 40%, and I doubt he is ever not getting it in with 99 or AQ here. He's definitely good enough to know that this is a spot where we can be 3betting light fairly often and that he has reasonable fold equity on a shove. With all that said, I call.

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Please give better ICM information next time including our position and players left. You only gave payouts however didnt mention if this was a FT or not.

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Kalculater said:

Please give better ICM information next time including our position and players left. You only gave payouts however didnt mention if this was a FT or not.

well i htought its clear enough if i give pay outs and we are full ring that it is FT. and i stated that i am CL at this time.

 

does this info change your view on the situation?

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It does not change my analysis of the situation. I still call. My above comments was for future reference as it was not entirely clear. It could have been final 2 tables or else…

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