lol is this a level? Are you being for real with this post lol. First of all you have a premium hand for when you have around 20 bigs. And you have a guy that seems to want to get it in pre. You open that pot for action and got it so get the chips in because hes not folding pre. I also feel stop and goes are designed for hands that flop good but are not premium hands. I would never dream of playing this hand this way. I guess because your a little deeper then the normal stack that would try a stop and go he might fold so there is a little value in it that way. However im putting these chips in pre.

Now correct me if I am wrong, these are my initial thoughts.

The villian is he the type of player that notices your activity and might 3-bet lighter than usual against you? However, would the fear of the people behind make his range not so light, therefore his hand could be strong?

At this level, is this a normal 3-bet? I have been told that you should 2.5 to 3x the original raiser on a 3-bet? Is he trying to get you off the hand cheaply? Or is he 3-betting like this to keep you interested and induce a 4-bet shove on you? Or is he betting cheaply so he could get off the hand without calling your 4-bet shove? With his stack why does he not just shove?

^^^This is what I tend to have problems with. Is the guy trying to induce a shove from me, or is he trying to bet that low so he can get away if I shove? (At the micros, its normally to induce a shove)

As far as my take on the hand goes,

Pete is in that 18BB range. You raised about 2.5x and he 3-bet you, why does he not just shove? I think he does not shove b/c he is waiting for you or some1 behind him to put him to the test. So, with this mindset I think he has a decent hand. Again, I don’t play at the 50 dollar level so I couldn’t be entirely sure.

However, I don’t think the Stop N Go play benefits you here with this hand. I believe your hand plays best pre-flop, and a hand like 78s plays better post-flop. So, with your stack size I would shove instead of stop n go.

Deal said:

Almost looks like you saved him chips versus maximize yours. Had he hit this flop with his drawing hand he would stack you, but if he misses he saves 17925 chips that he otherwise would have put in for you to win had you just shoved pre. It’s really unlikely that any hands that had you beat preflop are folding to your stop n go.

If you had complete garbage then maybe there is a case for this play… ? idk

 

how is that? because he’s 3b/calling AJ/AT?

while i do think that AJ can be in his range, i also think there are a lot of pairs, and getting them to fold some of the times i miss the flop but it’s bad for him is a fine outcome. not to mention the possibility that he lays down AK on some rag flop.

idk maybe i’m overthinking but i think there’s merit to having plays like these in your arsenal and not just playing some formulaic game.

I am just curious as to why the villian here would 3bet like this and not just 3-bet shove? Anybody care to help me out with this?

Also hagbard, what did he have? My first initial guess, just due to how he bet in accordance to his stack size is JJ+, AQ+

BBird40 said:

I am just curious as to why the villian here would 3bet like this and not just 3-bet shove? Anybody care to help me out with this?

 

 

Also hagbard, what did he have? My first initial guess, just due to how he bet in accordance to his stack size is JJ+, AQ+

this is a really good question.

i didn’t think too much about it at the time because i was busy being fancy 😉 and because i’d been so active at the 500/1000 level (the blinds just went up) and had opened a few pots at this level in the past orbit or two.

as for the results i’m a pretty huge nit about not giving them because i don’t think they should matter too much, but once i feel that discussion has dried up i’ll post them for you.