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Stars 10r late just jam as a 4bet?
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March 26, 2011 - 1:52 am
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I had jammed several times to get back my stack since an unfortunate hand. original opener was active. 3bettor had raised folded a couple of times? opinions

 

Poker Stars $10+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t3000/t6000 Blinds + t600 – 9 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

dwy621 (UTG): BB = 13.1, t78312
pipelry (UTG+1): BB = 11.6, t69740
BEOWULF88 (UTG+2): BB = 24.3, t145972
SAMSONisGOD (MP1): BB = 18.4, t110549
CARLOSPP (MP2): BB = 31.8, t190610
Infinito46 (CO): BB = 17.2, t103193
tucci 007 (BTN): BB = 4.5, t27058
Hero (SB): BB = 21.7, t130088
cartonplein (BB): BB = 9.6, t57322

Pre Flop: (t14400) Hero is SB with J of hearts J of spades
2 folds, BEOWULF88 raises to t18000, SAMSONisGOD raises to t109949 all in, 3 folds

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March 26, 2011 - 3:33 am
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 His shove looks strong from MP1, he could be making a move, but I do not think it is worth the risk calling. You still do not know what the other player will do. I would let it go, if you were the only left to act I may considering shoving. Do you have any HUDs stats you could run his PFR% in Pokerstove against your JJ, see where you stand.

 

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March 26, 2011 - 4:33 am
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I know it sucks but the 3x open from UTG+2 with 24bb's and the shove with 18bb's from MP both look strong. I find a fold here but jamming it in is not bad either imo because you could potentially get a stack that puts you back in it to win it. I think you need a slightly better read than you have described to be able to make a call, i fold.

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March 28, 2011 - 2:20 pm
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Yea I could probably find a fold here, but I would be probably pulling the same move from samsons view if he doesn't shove.

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March 28, 2011 - 2:52 pm
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“Get it in.” MVP

IR's range is fairly wide since you say he's been active. 3 Bettor has also been opening some hands, so he's probably capable of 3betting a wider range than 2.5%, more like 10%. If you c ai and IR c aswell, you're crushed. But I think w JJ you'll do pretty wel vs the ranges and IR will fold a pretty high % of his opening range.

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Call me nitty but I lean toward a fold here, but it would be close for me.  When it's close like this and I have around 20BBs I look at when the blinds are going to increase. If they will be going up in the next orbit that will lean me to a shove… anyone else do this??

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in this spot, you are 48.6% against 99+, AQs+, AKo, which i think is about as tight as villain's range gets. there could be a whole bunch more stuff in here including AT,AJ, KQs, 66-88 etc etc. 

 

if we extend the range to 66+, ATs+, KQs, AJo+, then we are 58%

 

imo that is pretty decent equity against any sort of range, and i would get it in here. 

 

(btw i am assuming original opener folds which i think is a good enough assumption give that he has been active – if original opener wakes up with QQ+ then good on him but that would be a very smal part of his range obv)

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bennymacca said:

in this spot, you are 48.6% against 99+, AQs+, AKo, which i think is about as tight as villain's range gets. there could be a whole bunch more stuff in here including AT,AJ, KQs, 66-88 etc etc. 

 

if we extend the range to 66+, ATs+, KQs, AJo+, then we are 58%

 

imo that is pretty decent equity against any sort of range, and i would get it in here. 

 

(btw i am assuming original opener folds which i think is a good enough assumption give that he has been active – if original opener wakes up with QQ+ then good on him but that would be a very smal part of his range obv)

This looks about right.  With the dead money in the pot this is a no brainer.  Nice analysis benny

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