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ownednutz
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May 18, 2012 - 3:41 pm
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Poker Stars $4.10+$0.40 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t125/t250 Blinds + t25 – 8 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

Snueboy (UTG): BB = 26.3, t6584
Trickster =P (UTG+1): BB = 8.5, t2130
Hero (MP1): BB = 35.5, t8869
lukalion (MP2): BB = 41.6, t10408
yackdaniels3 (CO): BB = 30.7, t7671
casimiro61 (BTN): BB = 9.9, t2473
xvinceny1 (SB): BB = 32.0, t8008
maska127 (BB): BB = 8.7, t2172

Pre Flop: (t575) Hero is MP1 with 9 of clubs A of clubs
2 folds, Hero raises to t535, 1 fold, yackdaniels3 calls t535, 3 folds

Flop: (t1645) A of hearts 3 of hearts 8 of spades (2 players)
Hero bets t625, yackdaniels3 calls t625

Turn: (t2895) 4 of clubs (2 players)
Hero bets t1625, yackdaniels3 calls t1625

River: (t6145) 9 of diamonds (2 players)
Hero bets t2750, yackdaniels3 raises to t4861 all in, Hero calls t2111

Final Pot: t15867
Hero shows 9 of clubs A of clubs (two pair, Aces and Nines)
yackdaniels3 shows 3 of diamonds 3 of clubs (three of a kind, Threes)
yackdaniels3 wins t15867

 

That hurts a litte bit, but i think its a cooler, nothing i can do

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May 18, 2012 - 4:04 pm
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def a cooler, but i think you can just check call river here as a much better line,

if we think about his hand range that gets to the river what does he have that we are getting 3 streets from and still beat? i feel like bigger Ax 3 bets pre given positions, any missed draw is folding anyways so once we get to river here i think we essentially have a bluff catcher, as shitty as it is with top 2 im just not sure what you can confidentally say you are getting 3 streets from here and are still beating…he could have AJ i suppose but i still dont think you get 3 streets unless hes a fish

 

i would def check call here and let him bluff worse hands, or you save chips vs betters ones but i dont think im ever leading, just puts you in shitty spots

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May 18, 2012 - 7:08 pm
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I woulda just jammed the river to make it look bluffy. A set is all that ever beats you here – super unlucky.

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May 18, 2012 - 8:57 pm
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def a cooler but what hands are you getting to call us that are likely in his range here by jamming river….do u think he may look us up with A10? a random underpair? what do we think he is calling with here when we jam?

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The more I play mtt's the more I see tons and tons of call stations out there in spots where folding just seems so obviously the correct play. Lately, until someone proves to me they have a fold button I am doing stuff like jamming this river.

Plus, it's a $4 mtt. I think a lot of fish happily call off AT and AJ here, any single two pair combo on the board, and maybe some random shit in between. 

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ya cool, thanks, as im just getting more into MTTs i wasnt sure,  figured you had good resoning behind jamming that i wasnt sure of…good to keep in mind as i am never shipping here but def may start trying it out

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thanks guys, i dont like the check on the river as well

I put him on AT, maybe two pair? 

I like the jam on the river too, but i as afraid that he mite dont call =) 

but he has the goods, what can we do =  / 

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i think actually most the hands he calls a value bet with he calls a jam with thinking about it, so if your going to choose to bet you may as well try to get the max

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