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Full Tilt Poker Game #24303802254: $25,000 Guarantee (185241375), Table 46 – 20/40 – No Limit Hold'em – 16:13:52 ET – 2010/09/29
Seat 1: ChasingIdiot (2,940)
Seat 2: ThePortuguee (3,091)
Seat 3: UnderGoReality7 (2,740)
Seat 4: The Lab Rat (2,520)
Seat 5: matthew66 (3,300)
Seat 6: LuckyPanther (5,805)
Seat 7: JonnyMalc (2,405)
Seat 8: TaxxIdriVER (3,810)
Seat 9: Babba99 (3,340)
TaxxIdriVER posts the small blind of 20
Babba99 posts the big blind of 40
The button is in seat #7
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChasingIdiot [Ad Kh]
ChasingIdiot has 15 seconds left to act
ChasingIdiot raises to 105
ThePortuguee calls 105
UnderGoReality7 folds
The Lab Rat has 15 seconds left to act
The Lab Rat raises to 420
matthew66 folds
LuckyPanther folds
JonnyMalc folds
TaxxIdriVER folds
Babba99 folds
ChasingIdiot has 15 seconds left to act
ChasingIdiot ???
July 3, 2010
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Stupid spot – I get in these too where shoving seems so spewy and flatting seems so lol bad.
I know Lab Rat has pretty good results but what's his game like, Wein?
I feel like you have a tighter table image in the eyes of others than the way you really play so when you raise UTG and get flatted UGT+1 Lab shouldn't be goofing around this early and 3 betting light. I would think he flats a ton of his range like midpairs, suited connectors, and decent suited Ax hands if he decides to play them. If he plays a TAG style and sees you as tighter player I think his 3 bet range is super narrow … like JJ, QQ, KK, AA, AK … maybe some lesser pairs but then he'd be turning those into bluff hands if you 4 bet so it doesn't make sense to me to 3 bet them in position with nice implied odds.
I'm tempted to just pitch the hand because flatting sucks and I don't want to shove AKo in level 2.
Am I wrong in this philosophy? “I'd rather bust early then play for hrs and bust on the bubble or a min-cash?”
As seen, I would get pissy and fold. I am assuming at your stakes ppl realize not to get too out of line in the first 5 levels. Am I right?
June 25, 2010
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lab rat is good, i don't think he is spewing this early. IMO his range is QQ+ and AK. I am not sure you have enough equity against that range to get it in profitably, so i may fold then go throw up.
June 11, 2010
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You're UTG when you raised and he chose to 4x you so a couple of things pop into my head.
1. If we have history, does he think I am opening light as UTG is steadily becoming the new BTN so if there is a possibility he thinks I am light i think I click it back and see if he spaz's out.
2. If we have no history and I don't know anything about his game then this is a really clowny line, it is a really odd raise size and is more indicative of him wanting to scare me away than induce action so I am pretty sure I am looking at a 88-JJ, AQ, AK than anything else. It is early so you could make a case to fold to preserve you stack, but I think I lean towards gambling it a little to build a stack and open up my options a little so I think I jam it and see what he does.
All in all if we have some history I may try to use it to push a button and try to exploit a bad tendency (assuming he has any). If he is a random I think I gamble it up since I don't think I am looking at AA or KK and I am at worst flipping so I go for it.
FkCoolers said:
Stupid spot – I get in these too where shoving seems so spewy and flatting seems so lol bad.
I know Lab Rat has pretty good results but what's his game like, Wein?
I feel like you have a tighter table image in the eyes of others than the way you really play so when you raise UTG and get flatted UGT+1 Lab shouldn't be goofing around this early and 3 betting light. I would think he flats a ton of his range like midpairs, suited connectors, and decent suited Ax hands if he decides to play them. If he plays a TAG style and sees you as tighter player I think his 3 bet range is super narrow … like JJ, QQ, KK, AA, AK … maybe some lesser pairs but then he'd be turning those into bluff hands if you 4 bet so it doesn't make sense to me to 3 bet them in position with nice implied odds.
I'm tempted to just pitch the hand because flatting sucks and I don't want to shove AKo in level 2.
wow, very nice read and analysis of situation. i have to agree here.
bjizz
I don't see lab rat raising like this when blinds are still this low, if this were say level 4 or 5, then maybe, just seems like this isn't a spot anybody would want to play with without a hand, especially with a flat behind. You have to assume that he's looking to get at least one caller.
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