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Small Pair Vs UTG open less than 20BB
magpienath
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October 14, 2018 - 6:22 pm
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This was brutal to see how the hand played out as would of put me in a strong position as was in the money with about 100 players left. Trying not to be results orientated would you think this is correct to fold? This was a low $11 tourney, table was quite active so far, this was a new table so only about 10-15 hands sample on players.

I don’t think we are getting the implied odds for flat calling and putting 10% of our stack in pre, which we could then maybe have to fold to a squeeze and I don’t love re-shoving with everyone left to act and his calling range I would expect to be over pairs and high cards.

I would shove something like 99+ AkAQs, but unsure if we could flat here with 88 & 77 with these stacks? Would you play it differently?

 

partypoker – 18750/37500 NL (8 max) – Holdem – 8 players

UTG: 30.09 BB 
Hero (UTG+1): 19.41 BB
MP: 80.4 BB 
MP+1: 14.31 BB 
CO: 33.01 BB 
BTN: 72.66 BB 
SB: 35.85 BB 
BB: 55.77 BB 

8 players post ante of 0 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.41 BB) Hero has 7spade 7heart

UTG raises to 2.2 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, SB calls 1.7 BB, fold

Flop: (6.31 BB, 2 players) 2club 7club Aheart
SB bets 2 BB, UTG calls 2 BB

Turn: (10.31 BB, 2 players) 3heart
SB bets 5.15 BB, UTG calls 5.15 BB

River: (20.61 BB, 2 players) 3diamond
SB bets 10 BB, UTG calls 10 BB

SB shows Adiamond 3spade (Full House, Threes full of Aces)
(Pre 31%, Flop 11%, Turn 71%)
UTG mucks Aclub 9club (Two Pair, Aces and Threes)
(Pre 69%, Flop 89%, Turn 29%)
SB wins 40.61 BB

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October 15, 2018 - 8:35 am
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Your analysis is spot-on. This is a clear fold pre-flop, and while I certainly understand the frustration of seeing that you would have won a big pot, that’s the definition of results-oriented thinking. Well played!

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Yeah playing middling pocket pairs in early position with less than 20bb is a recipe for disaster. I wouldn’t open 77 UTG+1 (88 is borderline), so I’m definitely not calling a raise. It’s always torture when we flop a nutted hand after folding but it makes it easier to move on if you’re confident that your decision was correct, which in this case it absolutely was.

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You can’t Monday Morning Quarterback logical preflop folds simply based upon unlikely results oriented flops that happen. For example, let’s say you had 2-7 offsuit. Logical preflop fold right? Worst starting hand in NLHE. Well, as it happens, in this hand 2-7 would have flopped two pair. It doesn’t mean you should play it.

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October 17, 2018 - 7:27 pm
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Thanks for the feedback! 

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