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December 24, 2013
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I satellited into the $109 50k High Five event and made every attempt to play well against the reg heavy field. I found opportunities to exploit people, but I found it to be a really awesome exercise in forcing myself to stay focused mostly because of how many sickos were at the table with me. Right before the bubble, my table broke and I was surrounded by 50bb regs with 90+ ratings on sharkscope while I sat on a mere 14bb. Luckily, the sicko to my right knocked out the sicko on my left. Then my table broke and I was maybe 6 hands into this table. This hand is right after the bubble broke. I almost don’t want to post this hand because this spot seems like it’s cut and dry, but here I am anyway.
No Limit Hold’em Tournament T1,000/T2,000
Buy-in: HS Wednesday – $50,000 GTD
Winning Poker Network
9 players
Formatted by pokercopilot.com: Poker HUD for Mac and Windows
Stacks:
UTG – UTG (T106,900)
UTG+1 – UTG+1 (T52,160)
UTG+2 – Hero (T34,576)
MP – MP (T103,380)
MP2 – MP2 (T50,264)
CO – CO (T52,353)
BTN – BTN (T30,100)
SB – SB (T115,841)
BB – BB (T55,213)
Preflop: (T4,800, 9 players) Hero is UTG+2 with 5♠ 5♥
2 folds, Hero raises to T34,376 (all-in)
For the above link, I set the payouts to 90% 1st place and 2nd place 10% to put some small value on tournament life that I couldn’t otherwise quantify.
June 2, 2013
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I guess is some close decision, I rather fold and wait for a better spot, when you are called you are in really bad shape or fliping, if this was on HJ i would shove.
If you are against better players maybe a shove is slightly better, because your edge is smaller. Again, close decision.
May 20, 2015
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If HRC gives us 33+ then I’m certainly shoving 55. It sounds like you don’t expect to have a big edge on the field, in that case I would be shoving the equilibrium range exactly.
December 24, 2013
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Appreciate the thoughts. I don’t really anticipate much of an edge over my table at the moment, when above 30bb. At short stacks, I still see exploitable opportunities from regs, so you can sense where my indecision comes from. So, it’s kind of hard to tell. If I double, I probably am tossing chips back and forth with the better regs. There were maybe 4 at my table. The rest of the field ~70 people, most of them were unknowns to me in that I didn’t recognize their names.
April 11, 2015
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Would it be wrong to just open 2.2x and play post flop? You got 17 big blinds, why pile it in there with all that uncertainty. Yeah Nash equilibrium / GTO whatever you want to call it does say it is a shove and it’s unexploitable. However, playing GTO is neither the most profitable nor most optimal play in some situations…no? NO idea…if a pro could clarify this I would appreciate it.
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December 6, 2012
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I don’t see an argument for doing anything other than shoving. “Waiting for a better spot” is just a sophisticated way of saying “hoping to get lucky”. 55 is not a hand that plays well post-flop with shallow stacks. Suppose you open 2.2x and the BB calls. Now the flop is Q84. Are you bet-calling? Bet-folding? Checking, and then…?
December 24, 2013
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Thanks, Foucalt. That’s kind of what I figured. I could see just folding if we had long levels, does that sound fair or is shove just too far the correct play?
btw, I deleted twitter and want to send you something. what’s the second preferred method of contact?
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December 6, 2012
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My Getting Off on the Right Foot has a long discussion of passing up edges, but the bottom line is probably don’t do it. Among other things, it’s not at all clear to me that long levels would be to your advantage. Don’t make poker more complicated than it is: when you have a choice between doing one thing, or doing something else that is worth more, do the thing that is worth more, and let the chips fall where they may.
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August 6, 2013
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I’m showing this if this somewhat stronger table, the showe isn’t going to make much money, but its def +ev, the antes here only 10% which is big factor for shoving spots [Not in favorable way].
If this weak table I’m def just folding pre here and not passing up my edge just over making ~+0.15 autoprofit with the shove.
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