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Small 3bet Pre Big Pair?
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August 13, 2010 - 10:25 pm
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Full Tilt Poker Daily Double – B No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t40/t80 Blinds – 9 players
Hand Conversion courtesy of Tournament Poker Edge

Gaisska (BTN): t2958 36.98 BBs
Chi Town Pep (SB): t6086 76.08 BBs
okiehustler (BB): t3000 37.50 BBs
Hypnopod (UTG): t4250 53.12 BBs
p0krplr (UTG+1): t3442 43.02 BBs
kingpin1010 (UTG+2): t5940 74.25 BBs
Jack Aplenti (MP1): t4335 54.19 BBs
scottz103 (MP2): t4135 51.69 BBs
TobinSchultz (CO): t2924 36.55 BBs

Pre Flop: (t120) Hypnopod is UTG with J of clubs J of diamonds
Hypnopod raises to t255, 1 fold, kingpin1010 raises to t560, 6 folds, Hypnopod calls t305

Flop: (t1240) A of spades 9 of spades 4 of clubs (2 players)
Hypnopod bets t800, kingpin1010 raises to t1760, Hypnopod requests TIME, Hypnopod folds

Final Pot: t2840
kingpin1010 wins t2840

 

Should I have played this differently? The two min 3bets just scream that this guy is a tool but I could not see stacking off here and getting beat by A rag so early in the tournament. Checking and floating the flop just didn't seem like a good option as there aren't too many cards out there to help me and these types of players are difficult to bluff if the turn card gave us a flush board to bet with. Do you ever 4 bet pre against someone who doesn't think above level 1 in this spot?

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August 14, 2010 - 1:51 pm
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The problem is we are OOP and if we do 4bet is he gonna call or jam with A rag?  I like calling and I would probably check call the flop and evaluate the turn.  Donking out gets you raised more times than not imo.  It says I have something but I want to know where I stand because its not that good.

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August 14, 2010 - 5:32 pm
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noticed Kingpin already doubled up – what kind of hand was that?

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August 16, 2010 - 12:28 pm
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pk2010 said:

Full Tilt Poker Daily Double – B No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t40/t80 Blinds – 9 players
Hand Conversion courtesy of Tournament Poker Edge

Gaisska (BTN): t2958 36.98 BBs
Chi Town Pep (SB): t6086 76.08 BBs
okiehustler (BB): t3000 37.50 BBs
Hypnopod (UTG): t4250 53.12 BBs
p0krplr (UTG+1): t3442 43.02 BBs
kingpin1010 (UTG+2): t5940 74.25 BBs
Jack Aplenti (MP1): t4335 54.19 BBs
scottz103 (MP2): t4135 51.69 BBs
TobinSchultz (CO): t2924 36.55 BBs

Pre Flop: (t120) Hypnopod is UTG with J of clubs J of diamonds
Hypnopod raises to t255, 1 fold, kingpin1010 raises to t560, 6 folds, Hypnopod calls t305

Flop: (t1240) A of spades 9 of spades 4 of clubs (2 players)
Hypnopod bets t800, kingpin1010 raises to t1760, Hypnopod requests TIME, Hypnopod folds

Final Pot: t2840
kingpin1010 wins t2840

 

Should I have played this differently? The two min 3bets just scream that this guy is a tool but I could not see stacking off here and getting beat by A rag so early in the tournament. Checking and floating the flop just didn't seem like a good option as there aren't too many cards out there to help me and these types of players are difficult to bluff if the turn card gave us a flush board to bet with. Do you ever 4 bet pre against someone who doesn't think above level 1 in this spot?


No because level 1 thinking means they only stare at their own 2 cards with no other considerations. And doubt many level 1 thinkers 3 bet anything worse than QQ the majority of the time.

Seems weak but I probably check/fold the flop.

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