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SM spot against HSMTT reg
MartinAltman
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August 15, 2011 - 4:07 am
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He was pretty active in EP, this was his 4th or 5th raise in EP. I assume my flat pre is ok since I don't wanna build pot oop and I don't wanna be 4betted since I've been 3betting good portion of time. I think he will be c-betting here with almost hole his range (Do you agree?) so I decided I will put a raise (Would someone just call?, Do you like my sizing?). Ott I had SD value so I checked, I didn't really put him on Kx and I was decided to call some smallish bet (Do you like my check or do you think I should be doublebarreling?). River kind of confuses me here. I think he might turn some hands into a bluff, but not sure how often he'll do it. Now I am more inclined to fold, but I called. How would you play this hand? Thanks for responses

 

Poker Stars $200+$15 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t125/t250 Blinds + t25 – 8 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

PokerWill1 (CO): BB = 64.1, t16033
zarfrolov (BTN): BB = 28.6, t7162
dyeti (SB): BB = 126.7, t31680
Hero (BB): BB = 79.4, t19857
probirs (UTG): BB = 32.7, t8170
lechuckpoker (UTG+1): BB = 59.6, t14890
LiianHapokas (MP1): BB = 49.9, t12485
Arshik07 (MP2): BB = 61.2, t15295

Pre Flop: (t575) Hero is BB with J of clubs T of diamonds
1 fold, lechuckpoker raises to t500, 4 folds, dyeti calls t375, Hero calls t250

Flop: (t1700) 5 of spades K of diamonds 6 of diamonds (3 players)
dyeti checks, Hero checks, lechuckpoker bets t890, dyeti folds, Hero raises to t2250, lechuckpoker calls t1360

Turn: (t6200) T of hearts (2 players)
Hero checks, lechuckpoker checks

River: (t6200) 6 of spades (2 players)
Hero checks, lechuckpoker bets t2000, Hero calls t2000

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August 15, 2011 - 1:28 pm
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Interesting check/raise on the flop. I think such you decided to make a play at him, that two barrelling the T on the turn is a must. It is almost a blank to the drawy board and gives you show down value. Think we need to continue and two barrel.

Checking turn and river does nothing for you but show weakness. You got no information on the last two streets and now calling hoping he is on a bluff. The river bet is small compared to the pot but it is obv a value bet imo. Hope you were right though. Interested in the result.

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August 15, 2011 - 7:18 pm
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I might just fold pre with JTo vs. a good hsmtt reg since it will be very hard to show profit OOP vs. that player. 

As played I'm not sure what he bets the river with that we beat. We check-raised and he still called and then bet instead of checked behind on the river and his bet looks pretty value heavy but he's probably sizing it like that with close to his whole range given the action here. 

I might even 3b pre-flop since he's been opening from EP a lot, especially if you've seen him 3b/fold prior. 

To ask a question – were you anticipating him to fold to the CR and then you had no idea what to do once called? This is why it's so tough to play vs. good people with marginal holdings when OOP. You should probably barrel pretty big on the turn since it really changes nothing about the board texture and then evaluate the river but you're risking a lot when you haven't really narrowed his range too well.

 

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August 19, 2011 - 9:16 am
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Someone else would like to share his opinion before I respond to comments and post results?

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August 19, 2011 - 11:01 am
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I think the main point here is playing oop against a tough reg – its gonna be difficult to play oop if you want to test him and make a play, look for  a spot to do it in position….

 

As played withy the cr on flop, I would agree with da hawkeye and say you must 2 barrell, if he calls then I would be tempted to 3 barrell and try to get him off a mediocre holding like weak Kx / JJ / 99- his call of your flop cr could be a sigh that he's putting you on a fd – but then I do love the 'ol 3 barrel spew wink

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August 19, 2011 - 3:18 pm
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After the flop c/r you can't shut down.  If you c/r the flop you have to either represent the diamond draw or represent a full house once the board pairs.  Might need to empty the clip to win this pot.

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August 21, 2011 - 9:08 am
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Villains river bet came as a direct result of the turn check. It screams diamond draw playing pot control for a cheaper river to me because a T peeling the turn is not some sort of scare card that is ever worth checking. Always have to follow up this check/raise with a turn lead no matter the turn. Made hands should always have lead out the flop, not check/raised because of the diamond draw. He can eliminate any K out of your hands because of that, and any river that’s a non-diamond he will be betting, which puts you in a tough spot because even if he’s bluffing it, there are a lot of hands in his range that are beating 2nd pair. Gonna laugh if he turns over 55 though, although it looks like he is likely on the diamond draw himself based on his turn check, unless he has this smashed and is taking the risk to try to induce you to bluff OOP if the river doesn’t show a diamond. I’m leveling myself trying to make sense of his line actually, so I’m probably all over the place. More support for not playing JTo OOP against a HSMTT reg!

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August 21, 2011 - 4:57 pm
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Ok guys, thanks for responses, I really appreciate it! 

I think main problem here was that I didn't bet the turn. I still think I shouldn't fold preflop even know he is capable reg, but I am not sure about my river call (as played). He had 67.

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