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April 6, 2013
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Poker Stars $10+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t5000/t10000 Blinds + t1250 – 9 players – View hand 2182193
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MP2: BB = 52.7, t526956
Hero (CO): BB = 79.2, t792499
BTN: BB = 29.5, t294685
SB: BB = 56.2, t562498
BB: BB = 23.4, t234472
UTG: BB = 20.8, t208090
UTG+1: BB = 12.2, t122350
UTG+2: BB = 52.6, t526369
MP1: BB = 44.9, t448777
Pre Flop: (t26250) Hero is CO with A
K
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to t30000, 3 folds, Hero raises to t55555, 3 folds, UTG+1 calls t25555
Flop: (t137360) 7
2
J (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero
Villain is playing tight, 17/12/0, right now over 40 hands. When they do this I think they have ATs+ 77+ KQ and maybe some other suited broadway. I assume they shove pre with smaller pairs, but who knows with these guys. I want to not shut out the AQ portion of my opponent's ranges behind me, I can really easily stack off v BTN and BB so don't want to let them hero fold AQ with an easy decision. So I raise small. Then my main man flats and we get this flop.
June 1, 2012
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Suprised you did not just put him all in. If i was villian i would be snap getting it in with 22+A10+KQ+ maybe tigher maybe looser depending on the player. However, i probaly would be open shoving with his stack but this is dependent on the table as well. If its a tough table i would shove with his stack if its weak i would raise to get it in.
July 5, 2012
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Villian calls off half of his stack preflop. this is an easy shove on the flop. If he open shoves the flop, we should still be calling 100% of the time. If he was inducing with a big hand, oh well. AK is way too strong to be folding to his stack. Flop texture is meaningless with this amount of $ in the middle, and you having heaps.
September 29, 2012
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Something about the way he played that just does not seem right. Realistically, any hand the villain opens he should probably open shove with that stack. But seeing as he open 3x at this level might also indicate that while he's tight, he does not understand inflection points and stack size play. Then he only flats your 3b instead of shoving. He's a seemingly tight player, opening in EP so his range should be fairly strong. Pretty much close to what you listed in the OP. It would seem that after the 3 bet, he would be able to safely shove AA and not worry too much about you getting away from the hand.
to be honest, one of the statements in your OP I think I disagree with. You stated “I want to not shut out the AQ portion of my opponent's ranges behind me, … So I raise small.” I think that AQ, AJ get it all in preflop to a larger 3 bet. I can't see him folding AQ to a 3 bet here with his stack.
In game, I probably shove this flop and if he turns over AA, then oh well. You are basically betting 65k to win a little over 200k so even if he has a hand as strong as QQ, you are getting odds to get it in here. He may even TAGfish fold if he has a hand like 66 here.
April 6, 2013
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jjpregler said:
to be honest, one of the statements in your OP I think I disagree with. You stated “I want to not shut out the AQ portion of my opponent's ranges behind me, … So I raise small.” I think that AQ, AJ get it all in preflop to a larger 3 bet. I can't see him folding AQ to a 3 bet here with his stack.
In game, I probably shove this flop and if he turns over AA, then oh well. You are basically betting 65k to win a little over 200k so even if he has a hand as strong as QQ, you are getting odds to get it in here. He may even TAGfish fold if he has a hand like 66 here.
In the first quoted paragraph I am not talking about the initial raiser getting away from AQ/AJ. I am talking about player's behind who have yet to enter the pot voluntarily. I want to keep their AQ's in the pot with the largest frequency I can and I think having this size for my entire 3betting range here accomplishes that. For one, I will have hands that I don't want to play for all the chips against the SB, but sometimes I will! The hands that don't want to play for all the chips against the BTN can be protected by my 3bet with those that will. So I size here non all in with a hand I would not mind inducing the BTN to come over the top with AQ. Sometimes I will have AJs or 66 and fold, sometimes I'll have AK or JJ and call. But whatever hand I do this with I am always going with it v the initial raiser.
On your second paragraph I am never folding, under any conditions really. My question is what is better to bet or to check. If I check I am not folding to a turn shove in this situation. So yeah, not worried about being trapped here and making some hero fold. Just interested in making the most money. I shoved as it happens and I think that's best, but maybe I'm wrong.
May 30, 2012
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im inclined to shove the flop just because he has greater (but often dominated) equity on the flop with more cards to come so he is more likely to get the money in
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December 6, 2012
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I don't see any reason for a larger 3b pre, your objective with your whole range in this spot is just to isolate the original raiser, against whom you're never folding pre or postflop. If anything I might even go smaller and just click it back to 50K, but obviously not a big difference.
I get what you're going for postflop, but given that the pot is huge and you don't have a clear idea of his range, I think you're better off just sticking it in now. Who knows, maybe he has two random live cards that he'll (wrongly) fold. I think that's more likely than inducing a shove from hands that you crush that would fold to a shove on this flop.
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