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Simple Raise/Call Spot... or is it? €5 6max
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July 30, 2014 - 7:59 am
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This seems like a simple enough spot, but it got me thinking. I decided to raise here as I expected it to be profitable enough and if the BB shoved I would have the odds to call (2:1, 33%), which would be fine. However, I wonder if J9s actually does have the required equity to call here vs the BB's shove. Vs 88+,ATs+,AJo+ (32.716%) we don't have enough equity, but if we add ATo (33.821%) then we do. I can't expect this player to 3bet much wider than that, so when it's this close are we making a big mistake by folding here?

 

Poker Stars No Limit Hold'em Tournament – 150/300/40 Blinds – 5 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

CO: t13719 1 BBs – VPIP: 22, PFR: 15, 3B: 4, AF: 5.4, Hands: 238
Hero (BTN): t12112 1 BBs – VPIP: 25, PFR: 19, 3B: 7, AF: 3.1, Hands: 26717
SB: t28273 1 BBs – VPIP: 33, PFR: 30, 3B: 27, AF: 2.7, Hands: 90
BB: t2092 1 BBs – VPIP: 14, PFR: 6, 3B: 11, AF: 1.0, Hands: 50
UTG: t12559 1 BBs – VPIP: 19, PFR: 16, 3B: 8, AF: 0.0, Hands: 113

Pre Flop: (t650) Hero is BTN with 9 of clubs J of clubs
2 folds, Hero raises to t600, 1 fold, BB raises to t1752, Hero???

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The guy has 7bbs, he's going to be shoving alot wider than what you've narrowed him down to.

 

In these spots I like to 4x, showing the short stack I'm definately not folding – increasing the steal success. It also shows the big stack I'm strong enough to call off this guy so they will fold similar, and slightly better hands than J9s.

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if you ever get 2:1 or more, dont fold. 

 

obviously you can find exceptions but i honestly think it would be true 90+% of the time

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