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Simple call/fold spot late in 3r
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July 14, 2010 - 6:58 pm
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I have a pretty aggro image and considered folding but figured if i was raising that hand i couldnt fold to that guy w/ my image and stack

 

 

Poker Stars $3.00 No Limit Hold’em Tournament – t8000/t16000 Blinds + t1600 – 9 players
Hand Conversion courtesy of Tournament Poker Edge

clanjast (BB): BB = 13.1, t210232
yellowandblu (UTG): BB = 7.8, t124743
Jackheres (UTG+1): BB = 8.4, t134622
Freeman2008 (UTG+2): BB = 30.9, t494453
ZMA_sleep (MP1): BB = 17.3, t276279
qnetkoff (MP2): BB = 14.1, t226154
LUIS ALAN (CO): BB = 17.9, t286852
Godliker_ (BTN): BB = 9.5, t151625
maxwell_8888 (SB): BB = 32.0, t511846

Pre Flop: (t38400) Freeman2008 is UTG+2 with Q[Image Can Not Be Found] K[Image Can Not Be Found]
2 folds, Freeman2008 raises to t32950, 5 folds, clanjast raises to t208632 all in, Freeman2008 calls t175682

Flop: (t439664) 4[Image Can Not Be Found] 7[Image Can Not Be Found] 9[Image Can Not Be Found] (2 players – 1 is all in)

Turn: (t439664) 9[Image Can Not Be Found] (2 players – 1 is all in)

River: (t439664) 3[Image Can Not Be Found] (2 players – 1 is all in)

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July 14, 2010 - 8:57 pm
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You’re putting in 40% of the chips for the total pot if you call.  I put him on a relatively tight range.  Seems like you aren’t getting the odds here.

 

equity  win  tie        pots won  pots tied

Hand 0: 30.653%   28.76% 01.90%     354517896 23392830.00   { KQo }
Hand 1: 69.347%   67.45% 01.90%     831555324 23392830.00   { 99+, AJs+, KQs, AQo+ }

 

If we widen his range a bit it still seems like a fold:

equity win tie      pots won pots tied

Hand 0: 36.219%   31.66% 04.56%     657035808 94629102.00   { KQo }

Hand 1: 63.781%   59.22% 04.56%    1229018436 94629102.00   { 66+, ATs+, KQs, AJo+, KQo }

 

Even with your image I don’t think he jams much looser but it really depends on what we think he’s doing here.

 

 

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If Hero is perceived as being LAG I think the range is even wider than this:

If we widen his range a bit it still seems like a fold:

equity win tie      pots won pots tied

Hand 0: 36.219%   31.66% 04.56%     657035808 94629102.00   { KQo }

Hand 1: 63.781%   59.22% 04.56%    1229018436 94629102.00   { 66+, ATs+, KQs, AJo+, KQo }

It’s probably more like:

22+, A7s+, A9+, KTs+, KQo

Unsure how much this changes the percentages.

Seems like marginal spot here. If we flip and lose we still have 17 bigs. I lean toward calling.

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The range above would be pretty much breakeven:

 

 

equity win tie      pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 40.058%   37.10% 02.95%    1273180620 101394654.00   { KQo }
Hand 1: 59.942%   56.99% 02.95%    1955487288 101394654.00   { 22+, A7s+, KTs+, A9o+, KQo }

 

I have a hard time believing a guy is going to jam over a relatively EP opener with something like KTs, or 33 though.  So given the breakeveness of this range I would lean more conservative for that assumption.

 

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you need ~38% against villains range to breakeven here, and even against a range that i believe is far too loose lik 66+, A9s+, KQs, QJs, JTs, ATo+ you only have 37%.

 

fold.

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