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May 31, 2012
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so this is a $30 buy in mtt with 3k uptop this particular spot happened with around 25 people left the guy is completely unknown never seen him before.
Table #50141559 – Tournament #28048931 Table #49
Starting Hand #2334903801
Start time of hand: 28 Apr 2013 23:11:31
Last Hand #2334903362
Game Type: HOLD'EM
Limit Type: NO LIMIT
Table Type: TOURNAMENT
Money Type: TOURNAMENT CHIPS
Blinds are now 3,000 / 6,000
Button is at seat 7
Seat 1: destroyer88 – 32,208
Seat 2: Bballer06 – 60,108
Seat 3: Grinch77 – 41,021
Seat 4: AshJ22 – 138,284
Seat 5: Bull3ts – 195,834
Seat 6: kosmo89 – 47,588
Seat 7: RAZER82 – 116,792
Seat 8: ritonvnt09 – 43,750
Seat 9: JennyDoom – 151,356
Shuffling Deck
Moving Button to seat 8
destroyer88 posts ante of 600
Bballer06 posts ante of 600
Grinch77 posts ante of 600
AshJ22 posts ante of 600
Bull3ts posts ante of 600
kosmo89 posts ante of 600
RAZER82 posts ante of 600
ritonvnt09 posts ante of 600
JennyDoom posts ante of 600
Pot sizes: 5,400
JennyDoom posts small blind (3,000)
destroyer88 posts big blind (6,000)
Dealing Cards
Dealing [J h][J d] to AshJ22
Bballer06 folds
Grinch77 folds
AshJ22 raises to 12,000
Bull3ts folds
kosmo89 folds
RAZER82 calls 12,000
ritonvnt09 folds
JennyDoom folds
destroyer88 folds
Pot sizes: 38,400
Dealing Flop [3 d][8 s][7 h]
AshJ22 bets 18,000
RAZER82 calls 18,000
Pot sizes: 74,400
Dealing Turn [9 c]
AshJ22 checks
RAZER82 bets 86,192 (all-in)
January 27, 2013
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I'm calling here, do u have any stats or reads on the villain and what ur perceived image is? Floating you're c-bet on a pretty safe board then you checking the turn is showing weakness so i'd think this pot size shove is bluffing enough times for a call. Would he not 3-bet pre with JJ or QQ but could have a set or KK or AA?
May 31, 2012
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I'm snapcalling and fistpump & high-five everyone within reach while doing so. You have 23BB pre and an overpair post, no need to herofold. Especially since your range looks very weak after checking turn.
I'm guessing you called, he showed AA for a trap and you are now doubting your play.
I bet a bit bigger on the flop and shove the turn. Don't check and give a free card!
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December 6, 2012
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black666 said:
I bet a bit bigger on the flop and shove the turn. Don't check and give a free card!
Agreed. This is one of many spots where Villain's calling range will be wider than his betting range. If you're going to get it in anyway, best in these cases to do the betting yourself rather than leaving it up to him whether he wants to put the money in. Only exception would be if you suspect Villain of floating and want to induce a turn bluff, but this doesn't seem like the spot for that.
January 27, 2013
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are we going to get called with worse if we were to shove making our jacks a bluff? he might call with TT but can't really see anything else that we have beat
May 31, 2012
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It's not only a matter of getting called by worse but also of protecting our hand. Villain can easily float us here with AT+, KT+, QT+ and JT just to see what we do on the turn. He might have some hands with decent float equity like T9, A7-A9. You also have to factor in the FPS where people just watched an episode of the WPT and now want to pull off some fancy Gus Hansen move.
There is just too much stuff in villain's range that is calling the flop but still behind of JJ. If villain has QQ-AA or outflopped us with 77-88 then it was a cooler anyway and he deserves our chips.
I'm not saying that we should shove the turn and pray for a snapcall. But we can't let a free card roll off with such a good but vulnerable hand that shallow and such a low SPR.
May 31, 2012
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Your turn check looks like a Cbet and give up with A high type hand. Is he really jamming for value with a hand that has you beat once you check? Probably not IMO. He may have hit the board with a pair and some type of draw that has equity and now wants to protect it and take a large pot down but has outs if called. Don't think I would have seen any value in checking the turn given the stack sizes. Might have considered going for check raise on the flop.
May 31, 2012
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thanks for all the comments guys.
Table #50141559 – Tournament #28048931 Table #49
Starting Hand #2334903801
Start time of hand: 28 Apr 2013 23:11:31
Last Hand #2334903362
Game Type: HOLD'EM
Limit Type: NO LIMIT
Table Type: TOURNAMENT
Money Type: TOURNAMENT CHIPS
Blinds are now 3,000 / 6,000
Button is at seat 7
Seat 1: destroyer88 – 32,208
Seat 2: Bballer06 – 60,108
Seat 3: Grinch77 – 41,021
Seat 4: AshJ22 – 138,284
Seat 5: Bull3ts – 195,834
Seat 6: kosmo89 – 47,588
Seat 7: RAZER82 – 116,792
Seat 8: ritonvnt09 – 43,750
Seat 9: JennyDoom – 151,356
Shuffling Deck
Moving Button to seat 8
destroyer88 posts ante of 600
Bballer06 posts ante of 600
Grinch77 posts ante of 600
AshJ22 posts ante of 600
Bull3ts posts ante of 600
kosmo89 posts ante of 600
RAZER82 posts ante of 600
ritonvnt09 posts ante of 600
JennyDoom posts ante of 600
Pot sizes: 5,400
JennyDoom posts small blind (3,000)
destroyer88 posts big blind (6,000)
Dealing Cards
Dealing [J h][J d] to AshJ22
Bballer06 folds
Grinch77 folds
AshJ22 raises to 12,000
Bull3ts folds
kosmo89 folds
RAZER82 calls 12,000
ritonvnt09 folds
JennyDoom folds
destroyer88 folds
Pot sizes: 38,400
Dealing Flop [3 d][8 s][7 h]
AshJ22 bets 18,000
RAZER82 calls 18,000
Pot sizes: 74,400
Dealing Turn [9 c]
AshJ22 checks
RAZER82 bets 86,192 (all-in)
AshJ22 calls 86,192
Pot sizes: 246,784
AshJ22 shows [J h][J d]
RAZER82 shows [K c][K s]
Dealing River [5 d]
Pot sizes: 246,784
RAZER82 has One Pair: Kings
RAZER82 wins 246,784 with: One Pair: Kings
Seat 1: destroyer88 – 25,608
Seat 2: Bballer06 – 59,508
Seat 3: Grinch77 – 40,421
Seat 4: AshJ22 – 21,492
Seat 5: Bull3ts – 195,234
Seat 6: kosmo89 – 46,988
Seat 7: RAZER82 – 246,784
Seat 8: ritonvnt09 – 43,150
Seat 9: JennyDoom – 147,756
End of Hand #2334903801
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