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shoving 30bb or playing 10 10 3-way out of position?

ColdZer0

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December 3, 2015 - 9:28 am

Hi, I played this hand in a 1.50$ 90 player sit & go recently:

https://www.jivaro.com/profile/ColdZer0/posts/56604ef9ef65bc7307981b25/

One guy opens 5x and another one calls, I’m in the small blind with 10 10 and I’m not really sure how I’m supposed to play this

Set mining shouldn’t be profitable with them opening 5x, but playing out of position against 2 players when at least one overcard will flop almost every single time feels wrong aswell.. I was hoping that at least one of them folds to the shove and that I’ll just have a flip against one of them with a lot of dead money in the pot, but somehow he flats with QK and the other guy reshoves with QJ..

In this case with their hands it was a profitable shove (EV ~11bb) but is shoving here always the right play when I still have 30bb? I’m really not sure what else to do when it feels completely unpredictable how often they will call since some people in these stakes would fold AK here and some as in this case reshove with QJ..

Thanks for the help!

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December 3, 2015 - 10:47 am

It’s a shove. The nice thing about jamming TT is that it’s profitable no matter what they do with QJ and AK. If they fold great, if not, you’re still a small favorite. And of course sometimes they’ll call with lower pairs as well. There are very few combinations of hands that have TT dominated, which is why it’s hard to go wrong sticking in 30bb with it.

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December 4, 2015 - 5:28 am

With a 5x open and a call, there’s a ton of dead money in the middle. If there are even a few occasions where both of these guys fold to your shove, it becomes absurdly profitable to get it in here. They’re making huge mistakes whatever they do here once they 5x. I imagine TT is absolutely fine to get it in here, if they start folding more than a fraction of the time you might be able to get it in wider than you think in this spot.

You shouldn’t shy away from getting 30bb in preflop when there’s a lot of dead money. 30bb is a very playable stack, but most people massively overestimate what kind of an edge they have at that stack size. When you have a hand as strong as TT on a 30bb stack, your goal should be to find a way to get it all-in unless someone gives you a reason not to.