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September 14, 2014
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#Game No : 723045671
***** 888poker Hand History for Game 723045671 *****
$25/$50 Blinds No Limit Holdem – ***
Tournament #72111823 Free 10 Max (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: london_ace ( $1,405 )
Seat 2: trixsta123 ( $3,332 )
Seat 3: Hercs2012 ( $3,406 )
Seat 4: Carree33 ( $3,885 )
Seat 5: xxdamag3xx ( $2,392 )
Seat 6: copoftea100 ( $3,193 )
Seat 7: Datschi1 ( $5,750 )
Seat 10: I_Race_Cards ( $5,090 )
Hercs2012 posts small blind [$25]
Carree33 posts big blind [$50]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to london_ace [ 9
, 8 ]
xxdamag3xx folds
copoftea100 folds
Datschi1 folds
I_Race_Cards folds
london_ace raises [$100]
trixsta123 folds
Hercs2012 calls [$75]
Carree33 calls [$50]
** Dealing flop ** [ Q
, A, 3
]
Hercs2012 bets [$50]
Carree33 folds
london_ace raises [$250]
Hercs2012 calls [$200]
** Dealing turn ** [ 9
]
Hercs2012 checks
london_ace ??
hey hey
v bets minimum OTF , i decided to raise since i reckon their range is really really weak , Qx and maybe JT 45s. hero has 3rd pair OTT i dont think our hand has much STD here to check behind. JT/45s would probably fold to a flop raise and we may still get v to fold Qx if we shove turn which could be in their range though i’m not too sure if v is calling with Qx to a flop raise ? I guess their range still consist of Qx and maybe weak Ax (marginal hands) OTT. Doubt we are getting V to fold Ax?
thoughts please?
cheers.
August 10, 2014
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Ehhh I’d rather be raising this donk bet with something with more equity. JT for example.
In my experience it is rather difficult to bluff these players out of pots. They have something with showdown value they don’t want to fold. We can use this to our advantage when we have the upper part of our range :D! And maybe some medium strength stuff too.
On the turn I’d rather check back now that we have a pair. I would assume we have zero fold equity. It isn’t a card that changes much. Plus, these guys are just too stationy. Hit your trips on the riv, imo.
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August 25, 2012
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Yeah I don’t know if 9 high backdoor flushdraw is the greatest hand to be doing this with, and I think what happens a lot with these spots is that even though you know your opponent’s range is weak, it’s going to take a lot of bets to make them fold it.
I think betting the turn is kind of unnecessary because if your opponent is folding the weaker parts of their range on the flop (which you want them to be in order to make the bluff profitable) then they’re most likely to have a turn range consisting primarily of Ax and Qx hands, meaning they’re reasonably unlikely to fold here.
Bottom line, villains who minbet flops like this don’t like folding. I doubt you’re getting Qx to fold turn, so I would just check. But having said that, I’d probably prefer to mostly raise flop for value for exploitative reasons, and if I was going to bluff, I’d use KJ/KT/JT hands that have a little more equity.
February 20, 2015
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Agree completely. One of the best tells that a player is inexperienced, online or offline, is when they min-bet every street. If you hadn’t raised him, he would have min bet the turn. His range is 80% Ax and 20% Qx and pocket pairs. He doesn’t have a draw. If you don’t improve on the river either check behind or fold.
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December 6, 2012
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fapy,
98s is pretty clearly not part of a balanced raising range here, which means that if you are raising with it, you should have some specific, exploitive plan for why you think it will be profitable against this player. Unfortunately I don’t know who the player is or why you thought this flop raise would be a good idea against him, so I can’t help you with that part. You say you think he is “weak” – what do you expect him to do with those weak hands on the flop? What are the weak hands you expect to call flop and fold turn? Does the 9 give you SDV against anything in that range? Do you have better bluffing candidates in your range?
September 14, 2014
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The weakest hands I may expect him to call is JTo or 45s , even that is cutting it tbf , so yeah i don’t really expect V to call flop and fold turn often at all here. I agree 98s was not the right bluffing candidate were as KJ/JT/KT is. The 9 does give me showdown value against that range, but i think V range will consist with more hands that beat a pair of 9s i.e Qx.
if we knew v is capable of calling flop with a gut shot and folds turn a lot , would it then be profitable? i’d assume so..but that’s not the case here, i don’t have that read. They must be a weak player though , i mean they just flat from the SB , that’s a slight indication lol 😉
i would of thought thats its OK to be unbalanced vs weak players tbh.
August 10, 2014
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folding_aces_pre_yo said
i would of thought thats its OK to be unbalanced vs weak players tbh.
Check out Foucault’s range construction series if you haven’t already 
, it touches on this topic.
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