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Shove the Turn Or Wait?
mesoanarchy
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April 25, 2011 - 11:58 pm
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Situation I just had at Lock Poker: $2T, 6-max;blinds 15/30. I have 2060 chips and hold JJ on the BTN. HJ has 4240 chips (he called an all-in bet with 99 vs. KJ and hit a riv 9) limps for 30. I raise to 120. Blinds fold, HJ calls. Flop comes Js 2h Qs. With 270 in the pot, I bet 200. I make this type of bet early in micros because it often helps defines someone's range for me if they call that kind of bet. HJ re-raises to 400. 

Immediately I know he either has a set with 2s as he would have more than likely open-raised with QQ, or he's on a flush draw – probably the flush draw. So, my choices are to call and go to the turn, or 3-bet all-in.

I shove, he snap calls with ———- K3ss. My first thought was, he called my pre flop raise with this? Oh well – cool! Turn comes Tc. Rive comes 8s. Not cool.

Afterward, I thought that perhaps I should have called his raise because I was confident I had the best hand post-flop and if he was on a flush draw and missed the turn, when I bet it would have given him more pause to think about calling down ~ 80%-20%, or 4:1 going into the riv. At the same time, since I saw him call an all-in shove with 99 when his opponent all but showed with his previous bets that he'd hit his K on the flop for a pair, I felt getting it in post-flop would likely result in me walking away with 2060 of his stack because he showed spewness.

Which would you have done: called the raise to 400 and gone into the turn and perhaps shoved the turn, or 3-bet shoved as I did before the turn?

Thanks guys…

 

Postscript: I feel it important to add this… I wanted to play this 6-max because I feel I have a problem with consistent aggression, in general, and a 6-max turbo forces a player to be aggressive or succumb to the fast action and the rapidly increasing blinds. I felt going in that doubling-up early – within reason, play-wise – is an important component to being able to maintain aggression and continuing to open my range in good spots as the blinds increase.

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April 26, 2011 - 9:11 am
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mate i really wouldnt have a problem either way

i find it depends on how i'm feeling or how im running

flatting obv lowers variance in the long run and thats what would determine which route you wanna take

as you rightly said – he's less likely to get it in when he misses the turn, and if the turn is a 3rd spade you can evaluate what he does from there. for me, i'd say more times than not i would take the more passive/lower variance route as it's so early, you have almost 70BB's, and it's a micro tourney so you should be able to pick up a lot of pots in the future.

No probs the way you played though

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