no antes in play. stack was shrinking. should i shove here or std 3x then play post flop.
Poker Stars $3.00 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t25/t50 Blinds – 6 players
Hand Conversion courtesy of Tournament Poker Edge
jasonfl420 (SB): BB = 35.2, t1760
BJIZZLE44 (BB): BB = 24.7, t1235
skindoggybra (UTG): BB = 60.7, t3035
Fishmusic518 (MP): BB = 45.8, t2290
Tbear0819 (CO): BB = 30.1, t1505
Miguel.P_13 (BTN): BB = 48.0, t2400
Pre Flop: (t75) BJIZZLE44 is BB with J A
2 folds, Tbear0819 calls t50, 1 fold, jasonfl420 calls t25, BJIZZLE44 raises to t1235 all in
A shove isn't terrible, but it somewhat turns your hand into a bluff, as nothing you're doing better than flipping against is ever calling you there. I prefer a raise to about 4x given the limper and the fact that you're OOP, then a c-bet on most flops. This will win you more chips in the long run than just shoving and taking it down then and there (usually, except for when you run into a sneaky button limper with a monster).
July 3, 2010
I gotta agree that shoving here is goofy. I am trying to think what worse hands would call me and pay me off with this play and I am not coming up with anything worse calling me and mostly stuff that is crushing me or I'm racing with calling me. I'd put in a standard raise +1BB for limper and +1BB for OOP and then see what can be done postflop. I would wager that a c-bet is going to take down the pot a lot in general and give better results in the long run. Do to your stack size you may end up picking up more value in the long run since a lot of players don't give short stacks a lot of credit at this level and just assume you are married to something in your hand and will play all the way so a TP/TK or TP/strong kicker could net you a tremendous amount of extra value by playing post flop.
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