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July 12, 2013
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This hand seems pretty butchered. Being as deep as we are I prefer a raise pre… I only had 20 hands on the villain and his stats were loose 40/11/0.
I c/r flop thinking there are going to be a lot of cards I can turn barrel. A, K, heart, Q, J ,mainly.
After his call I think his range is A10, A9, QJ, KQ, KJish hands. His range seems capped w his 2x open and flat on flop c/r.
Turn… He calls… I don't think eliminates much of his range…
River..??? Is this ever a bet? x/c, or x/f?
Is my thinking a mess? Ha! Cheers!
Poker Stars No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t50/t100 Blinds + t10 – 8 players – View hand 2417898
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter
MP1: BB = 184.1, t18407
MP2: BB = 212.1, t21207
CO: BB = 142.1, t14211
BTN: BB = 163.2, t16319
Hero (SB): BB = 123.1, t12309
BB: BB = 169.9, t16986
UTG: BB = 113.4, t11340
UTG+1: BB = 172.3, t17227
Pre Flop: (t230) Hero is SB with A
K
UTG calls t100, 2 folds, MP2 raises to t200, 2 folds, Hero calls t150, 1 fold, UTG calls t100
Flop: (t780) 5 9
T
(3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP2 bets t300, Hero raises to t899, UTG folds, MP2 calls t599
Turn: (t2578) K (2 players)
Hero bets t1699, MP2 calls t1699
River: (t5976) T
(2 players)
Hero???????
February 14, 2013
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tricky spot man, but after thinking about we can prob just ck/f and feel pretty good about it. I don't think he has much if any pure misses/air on the river, I guess combo wise he should be equally likely to have a Tx hand vs. a Kx hand, and actually prob has more Tx (JT,QT,AT (T8s maybe) vs. KQ,KJ I guess). I think the worst part is he can have all QJ combos; really no reason to raise the turn from his perspective. The only real hands he can have that totally missed are like 78,,, and yea thats pretty much it.
January 15, 2014
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Pre-flop I definitely think a 3-beT is needed, both for value and to isolate and define ranges a little better. On the river, I think you have to check-fold. I just don't see much that we are beating if he bets
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September 28, 2012
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Def 3 bet pre, I wouldnt hate a flat if there wasnt a limp, but dont relaly want to see this three ways for so cheap.
On flop you are repping very little with a c/r. I am not a fan of it at all , although you do have a semi decent hand for it.
His sizing tells me he is probably medium strenght or maybe nuttedd with a set. His turn play discredits a set imo. So we are looking at mdium strength hands. Problem is, some of those are now doing good on river, but luckily we dont really have to worry about this type of villain bluffing over top a bet, so I do liek a c/f here. a great example of b/f for value.
Since flop is fairly dry, we dont expect mainy bluffs in his range , so checking to let him bluff wont really work, and checking allows him to cehck back his KQ/KJ hands that turned a top pair, as well as any 9's he might hero with. I would bet like 35% pot and feel fine about folding to a shove.
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December 6, 2012
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3betting is definitely better pre-flop, as you and others have said. I'd call flop before I'd check-raise, though I might just fold depending on how I straight-forward I thought Villain was. I doubt you get him to fold many if any better hands. If you're only trying to make him fold air, you're ahead of that anyway, and in fact you dominate a lot of it.
As played I check tun, as you've already represented something stronger than top pair by c/r flop.
October 6, 2010
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agree with andrew here, my first thought when looking at this hand is to check turn. by doing that it really makes your flop cr look full of it, and you can possibly go for a river bet, or check to induce, but check raising and then barrelling off is really only going to get action from sets (or possibly AT on the river)
you can possibly get aces to fold, but that is definitely a small part of his range, and more likely value targets are JJ/QQ, which arent calling a cr and turn/river barrels.
as played i think cf river is the way to go, but as others have said, i would 3bet pre, and as played i would check turn.
July 12, 2013
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Foucault said:
3betting is definitely better pre-flop, as you and others have said. I'd call flop before I'd check-raise, though I might just fold depending on how I straight-forward I thought Villain was. I doubt you get him to fold many if any better hands. If you're only trying to make him fold air, you're ahead of that anyway, and in fact you dominate a lot of it.
As played I check tun, as you've already represented something stronger than top pair by c/r flop.
x turn, and what are we doing on the river? Is this a x/f?
July 12, 2013
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Here's what I entered as far as his range.
Should I interpret being ahead of his range as being a bet? or a x/c?
I also have AA and KK in his range which seem a bit unlikely...
Board: 5hTs9cKsTd
Equity Win Tie
MP2 44.78% 44.78% 0.00% { JJ+, ATs-A9s, KTs+, QJs, ATo-A9o, KTo+, QJo }
SB 55.22% 55.22% 0.00% { AhKh }
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