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My first hand at the table. I am thinking the reraise is a blocker bet for the flush draw or just trying to test me cause I am new to the table, so I shove. Curious if you guys think this is the right play.
Poker Stars $2.00 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t200/t400 Blinds + t50 – 8 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter
chri1963 (BB): BB = 71.8, t28717
Hero (UTG): BB = 44.2, t17661
Blitzz357 (UTG+1): BB = 17.9, t7160
The Faja (MP1): BB = 9.2, t3664
duggerallin (MP2): BB = 23.7, t9480
thinice1 (CO): BB = 44.3, t17706
gizmomindy (BTN): BB = 20.4, t8140
A-gangerSSBN (SB): BB = 17.2, t6865
Pre Flop: (t1000) Hero is UTG with K
A
Hero raises to t800, Blitzz357 calls t800, 2 folds, thinice1 calls t800, 2 folds, chri1963 calls t400
Flop: (t3800) 8
6 A
(4 players)
chri1963 checks, Hero bets t2000, Blitzz357 folds, thinice1 raises to t8000, chri1963 folds, Hero raises to t14000, thinice1 raises to t16856 all in, Hero calls t2811 all in
Turn: (t37422) J (2 players – 2 are all in)
River: (t37422) 9 (2 players – 2 are all in)
I'd raise slightly bigger preflop because it can make it easier to get in on decent flops with 44bbs and your not wanting to let the entire family in for cheap. Once he re-raises you on this flop no need to get cute re-raising him back leaving 2800 behind just put it all in. No offense but I wish most people would stop this junk as they are just slowing the game down for others prolonging the evitable.
If your coolered then so be it and you probably are versus random two pair or draws that get their but you let this guy in cheaply as once another guy flatted preflop this guy now can get in too and then the blinds get great prices to get in there too.
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Keeping yourself out of spots like this are all part of playing well. I at times struggle with my 3 bet pre-flop raise sizes.
October 6, 2010
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agree with the above, stacking off is fine here, but dont click back his 3bet, just get it in.
Im not min raising til the blinds are 750/1500 at 400/800 it just to ez for the bb to flat. Agree with benny dont click back his 3bet just jam there.
June 11, 2010
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Budr8cin said:
Im not min raising til the blinds are 750/1500 at 400/800 it just to ez for the bb to flat. Agree with benny dont click back his 3bet just jam there.
I don't have much to comment on the hand as I think that it has been covered fine here, but that I do want to call attention to is the idea of min-raising at the micro/low level. I want to caution this a little bit in that you need to be aware that a very large percentage of the time the opponents you will face do not understand that you are min-raising to conserve chips and that it means the same as a standard raise at these blind levels. In a lot of cases you are going to have a difficult time avoiding the BB coming along for the ride as the price he has is virtually too good to resist and you are going to be faced with a lot of difficult post flop situations where it will be very unclear where you stand because of his ATC. Something to think about. I know for my game I actually have moved to sticking to a 2.5x all the way though after the avg. stack size at my table gets to about the 30-40bb range.
I dont know why I min raised here might have been a mis click or I wasnt paying attention. Thnx for the advice.
June 25, 2010
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lespaulgman said:
Budr8cin said:
Im not min raising til the blinds are 750/1500 at 400/800 it just to ez for the bb to flat. Agree with benny dont click back his 3bet just jam there.
I don't have much to comment on the hand as I think that it has been covered fine here, but that I do want to call attention to is the idea of min-raising at the micro/low level. I want to caution this a little bit in that you need to be aware that a very large percentage of the time the opponents you will face do not understand that you are min-raising to conserve chips and that it means the same as a standard raise at these blind levels. In a lot of cases you are going to have a difficult time avoiding the BB coming along for the ride as the price he has is virtually too good to resist and you are going to be faced with a lot of difficult post flop situations where it will be very unclear where you stand because of his ATC. Something to think about. I know for my game I actually have moved to sticking to a 2.5x all the way though after the avg. stack size at my table gets to about the 30-40bb range.
I would like to add why you see all the pros minraising in their videos. At the higher stakes people will be 3-betting a lot more, making you fold more pre, so making smaller raises make it less costly to raise fold, which happens a lot at these levels. In the micros you rarely get 3-bet, so you won't have to raise fold your 2.5x most of the time, and 2x doesn't work as a steal like LPGM said.
I am sorry I don't have anything substantial to add to the question posed, but I am curious as to what the villain had.
October 6, 2010
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for some reason, raising to 2002 or 2020 or something looks a lot stronger than just min raising, seems to work better at the micros (my stakes) imo
bennymacca said:
for some reason, raising to 2002 or 2020 or something looks a lot stronger than just min raising, seems to work better at the micros (my stakes) imo
Are you raising 5x pre? Isnt that a too much? What do you do when you dont hit the flop? And do you not loose value by never getting called with your monsters?
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