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V had started slowly but become very active in the last few orbits and had taken down a number of pots stealing the blinds or with c-bets on the flop.
Poker Stars $5.00+$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t30/t60 Blinds – 9 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter
Erashovo (CO): t3252 54.20 BBs
songok1 (BTN): t3455 57.58 BBs
Dr.Justice (SB): t3012 50.20 BBs
ecard11 (BB): t921 15.35 BBs
Iskolder (UTG): t3370 56.17 BBs
Liska01 (UTG+1): t4706 78.43 BBs
Hero (UTG+2): t6465 107.75 BBs
Johnyk311 (MP1): t2599 43.32 BBs
thefrogs2530 (MP2): t2220 37 BBs
Pre Flop: (t90) Hero is UTG+2 with Q
Q
1 fold, Liska01 raises to t180, Hero raises to t425, 6 folds, Liska01 raises to t4706 all in, Hero calls t4281
Flop: (t9502) 6
3
T (2 players – 1 is all in)
Turn: (t9502) 6 (2 players – 1 is all in)
River: (t9502) 4 (2 players – 1 is all in)
October 6, 2010
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best thing to do in these spots is to try and put villain on a range, then plug that into stove and see what you get.
usually these spots you are just about flipping
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April 6, 2010
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i dont know if he plays JJ or worse this way, so really we are kind of hoping for AK?
Kind of feel like we can safely fold here and just move on this deep knowing that we likely have an edge on the field. If I were 10 tabling i might just jack it in, but I doubt its 100% right.
Even if villian was active or not it is hard for UTG to open then 4bet all in with a UTG+1 3bet behind him without having QQ+ or AK. I think we gotta fold this one pre. At this stake it is possible for guys to spazz out like this with TT or JJ but I wouldnt chance it.
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April 6, 2010
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im with Hawkeye! 
Thanks guys. I guess I talked myself into thinking he had AK. He had KK.
Agree with the others.
Even if you put him on AK, do you really want a flip this deep?
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July 20, 2010
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is your intention with your 3 bet to build a pot or find out where your at? villain is never 4 bet jamming JJ here so there 4 bet tells me that your crushed or your flipping it coulkd be AQ but most likely not so i would ditch and move on, villain most likely just puts in AA or KK here because this early he may think whats he 3 betting me with that hes folding this early
October 6, 2010
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is it too passive just to flat pre? that way we get to play against the whole of UTG's raising range, which we are ahead of, and we could also possibly get a squeeze from someone behind which we are usually ahead of too?
bennymacca said:
is it too passive just to flat pre? that way we get to play against the whole of UTG's raising range, which we are ahead of, and we could also possibly get a squeeze from someone behind which we are usually ahead of too?
Always a thought but I dont think you get a squeeze behind often, more likely to get a couple more flatters then you are playing oop and kicking yourself when a random A or K flops or someone binks a set.
July 3, 2010
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Yeah, we're raising for value here pre-flop and flatting is a mistake in my opinion, especially with so many people to act behind at stakes where people make bad flats to begin with.
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