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September 14, 2014
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#Game No : 652387418
***** 888poker Hand History for Game 652387418 *****
$50/$100 Blinds No Limit Holdem – ***
Tournament #65079657 $5.50 + $0.50 – Table #27 9 Max (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: Gesi1988 ( $4,642 )
Seat 2: DIDinko74 ( $6,428 )
Seat 3: 2k2k69 ( $5,845 )
Seat 4: polaczek91 ( $4,244 )
Seat 5: iepuredan ( $4,924 )
Seat 6: HF_DELUXE ( $5,361 )
Seat 7: london_ace ( $4,955 )
Seat 9: malung999 ( $5,141 )
Seat 10: samgauho ( $4,865 )
iepuredan posts small blind [$50]
HF_DELUXE posts big blind [$100]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to london_ace [ Q
, Q
]
london_ace raises [$200]
malung999 calls [$200]
samgauho folds
Gesi1988 folds
DIDinko74 folds
2k2k69 folds
polaczek91 calls [$200]
iepuredan folds
HF_DELUXE calls [$100]
** Dealing flop ** [ 2
, 8
, 2]
HF_DELUXE checks
london_ace bets [$425]
malung999 calls [$425]
polaczek91 folds
HF_DELUXE folds
** Dealing turn ** [ 9 ]
london_ace bets [$850]
malung999 calls [$850]
** Dealing river ** [ 6 ]
london_ace checks
malung999 checks
Hey
No reads.
just wondering if i should be going for 3 streets here? my value target would be JJ/TT and a hand like A8s. I doubt A8s are calling 3 streets , as for JJ/TT that's likely with the effective stacks being 50bb.
thoughts?
January 28, 2013
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If your value target is JJ/TT and if you think they are going to call 3 streets why would you not go for 3 streets here?
By checking the river you are only giving villains 8x, Ax and floats a cheap showdown. Villain will only bet his flushes and bluffs, of which he probably does not have many bluffs here. I think 3 streets of value is indeed the best play.
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December 6, 2012
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Ya this is a really trivial 3b, what are you afraid of?
January 15, 2013
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Agree with all posts, but something that i do attempt, but not typically in early stages, if I have an opponent who I know can't help himself but attempt to bluff a river or falseley overvalue a showdown value hand on the river by betting rather than checking back is to attempt to obtain my three streets of value that way, where by check calling the third street I might obtain chips where otherwise my opponent would have folded to a third barrel. However, i would far more commonly three barrel here.
September 14, 2014
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I checked because the pot was getting to big and i was thinking that a hand like A8 or k8 or watever wont call 3 streets, i thought maybe he's got a hand like 88/99 , unlikely he has any 2x in his range since he's called from UTG+2.
anyhow, i missed out on value on the river clearly.
January 28, 2013
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You should never be checking “because the pot is too big”. Seems like a mental game leak to me. If your reasoning to check is because the pot is too big you then need to look at your flop and turn play, bet sizing and strategies on what to do on certain following cards as to WHY the pot got so big and how you can alter this.
88/99 should be a small part of his range here and he just as easily has combinations of TT/JJ which are going to call a river bet.
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December 6, 2012
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“i was thinking that a hand like A8 or k8 or watever wont call 3 streets”
So you’d go three barrels here with all of your air?
“i thought maybe he’s got a hand like 88/99”
Checking doesn’t save you anything against those hands unless you were planning to fold?
September 14, 2014
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Lol yeah andrew, if he would had bet on the river i would of folded in that situation as i'm assuming there's no bluffs in his range and yes I would go 3 barrels here with my air here , so i should be with my value hands too.
January 28, 2013
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I think check/folding this river would be a mistake. Villain could end up thin value betting his TT and JJ combos hoping you have some sort of 9x or A-high hero call. I would be bet/folding this as villain is only going to raise his flushes on the river yet he is going to call a bet with hands that we beat (TT, JJ, 9x, 8x).
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