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shortstascked with 55 - call or fold?
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November 23, 2010 - 12:07 pm
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Is this a snap call with six blinds.. or do we fold and wait to be the pusher?

 

Poker Stars 8FPP No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t6000/t12000 Blinds + t1200 – 7 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

josetemllc (CO): BB = 4.3, t51200
filandros (BTN): BB = 26.6, t319317
randysignguy (SB): BB = 6.9, t83106
Hero (BB): BB = 6.1, t72700
pacne (UTG): BB = 19.5, t233709
wolle59 (UTG+1): BB = 4.1, t48656
Sarajlija84 (MP): BB = 2.7, t32396

Pre Flop: (t26400) Hero is BB with 5 of clubs 5 of hearts
1 fold, wolle59 raises to t47456 all in, 2 folds, filandros calls t47456, 2 folds

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November 23, 2010 - 12:21 pm
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Nah I call here… you're probably flipping the majority of the time and he's only shoving 4 bb's into your 26.5bb stack although with the SB and BB so short you just want to min-raise the shove to put them all-in as well.

Even if you lose the others are so short you can pick it back up through stealing blinds and antes since no one can call you lightly.

Edit: I am confused because your post says you're both the Button and the Big Blind. Either way I'm calling… but it's still confusing.

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Yeah, you don't really have and fold equity or fear equity with 6 BB's. This is probably the best possible situation you could hope for, short of being dealt AA. I would take it and hope for the best.

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Two ppl went all in before our hero. Utg+1 with 4bigs and then the btn with 26 bigs just calls so if are hero ships he is up against two hands holding 55 not really a good spot. But givin that we have only 6bb before the start of this hand I would just hope these two are sharing cards and get it in because i would not want to go through the blinds again with ur stack (except if u were on some kind of a bubble in a sattie).

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Insta-call. Just too short to wait for anything better.

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November 25, 2010 - 3:52 am
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I would fold, but it is close.

If wolle59 push his top 10% and filandros calls with his top 25 %. We only have 28,74% chance of winning the hand.

We have to pay 59500 in to a pot of 192856. So we have to pay 30,86 %. So calling is -EV.

We are on the button in 2 hands. So here we can maybe push in to the blinds with a little fold equity.

 

From pokerstowe:


equity win tie pots won pots tied

Hero: 28.862% 28.74% 00.13% 15250503642 67359189.67 { 5club5heart }

wolle59: 40.435% 39.58% 00.85% 21006936198 453211955.67 { 77+, A9s+, KTs+, QTs+, AJo+, KQo }

filandros: 30.703% 29.84% 00.86% 15838054994 456787392.67 { 66+, A2s+, K6s+, Q8s+, J8s+, T8s+, A7o+, K9o+, QTo+, JTo }

 

If we make there range a little wider, it will be neutral EV.

 


equity win tie pots won pots tied

Hero: 31.164% 30.86% 00.31% 27521874740 273021894.00 { 5d5s }

wolle59: 36.015% 35.05% 00.97% 31257363928 864584831.00 { 22+, A5s+, KTs+, QTs+, A8o+, KQo }

filandros: 32.821% 31.90% 00.92% 28451109184 821525187.00 { 22+, A2s+, K6s+, Q8s+, J8s+, T8s+, A7o+, K9o+, QTo+, JTo }


 

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Eske said:

I would fold, but it is close.

If wolle59 push his top 10% and filandros calls with his top 25 %. We only have 28,74% chance of winning the hand.

We have to pay 59500 in to a pot of 192856. So we have to pay 30,86 %. So calling is -EV.

We are on the button in 2 hands. So here we can maybe push in to the blinds with a little fold equity.

 

From pokerstowe:


equity win tie pots won pots tied

Hero: 28.862% 28.74% 00.13% 15250503642 67359189.67 { 5club5heart }


wolle59: 40.435% 39.58% 00.85% 21006936198 453211955.67 { 77+, A9s+, KTs+, QTs+, AJo+, KQo }

filandros: 30.703% 29.84% 00.86% 15838054994 456787392.67 { 66+, A2s+, K6s+, Q8s+, J8s+, T8s+, A7o+, K9o+, QTo+, JTo }

 

If we make there range a little wider, it will be neutral EV.

 


equity win tie pots won pots tied

Hero: 31.164% 30.86% 00.31% 27521874740 273021894.00 { 5d5s }


wolle59: 36.015% 35.05% 00.97% 31257363928 864584831.00 { 22+, A5s+, KTs+, QTs+, A8o+, KQo }

filandros: 32.821% 31.90% 00.92% 28451109184 821525187.00 { 22+, A2s+, K6s+, Q8s+, J8s+, T8s+, A7o+, K9o+, QTo+, JTo }

 

 


 


 
With this being an fpp tourney and giving the fact that UTG+1 has 4bb and will be hitting the bb again in two hands along with the flatter having a “big” stack and not having to worrying about anyone behind this opens up both shoving and calling ranges. I like your second set of numbers way better and I might even widen them a lil more.Plus, it will be slightly +ev with the 31.164% you listed so I think thats all we need to get the chips in imo.

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