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Semi deep in big 55$ TT on dry board vs small ISO and Q turn
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Villain pretty new at the table so no useful info on each other. It looks kinda weak with his sizing but at the same time this would be a great way to play AA,KK,AQ cause he looks weak and therefore gets me to call with a lot of mid pairs and Qx ofc before another potential scare card for me comes. (?)
My guess is there is too many flush and AcX hands +66-99 that he is putting max pressure on me with here at this stage so that it should be a call.
Ever jamming pre or jamming over the c-bet?

No Limit Hold’em Tournament T2,000/T4,000
Buy-in: $50+$5 USD Hold’em No Limit
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Stacks:
UTG – UTG (T107,296)
UTG+1 – UTG+1 (
T281,035)
MP – MP (
T233,537)
CO – CO (
T102,142)
BTN – BTN (
T61,736)
SB – SB (
T371,254)
BB – Hero (
T111,936)

Preflop: (T9,500, 7 players) Hero is BB with T♦ T♠
UTG calls T4,000,
UTG+1 raises to T10,500, 4 folds, Hero calls T6,500, 1 fold

Flop: 2♥ 5♣ 2♣ (T30,500, 2 players – Hero: T100,936, UTG+1: T270,035)
Hero checks,
UTG+1 bets T25,000, Hero calls T25,000

Turn: Q♦ (T80,500, 2 players – Hero: T75,936, UTG+1: T245,035)
Hero checks,
UTG+1 bets T245,035 (all-in), 1 fold, Uncalled bet of T245,035 returned to UTG+1

Total Pot: T80,500

UTG+1 wins T80,500

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March 29, 2016 - 10:56 am
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Why are you limp calling TT with 28BB? Why do you say semi deep? I wouldn’t say you are “semi deep” with 28BB.

I would just raise get it in. With the limp call I’m check-shoving the flop, as played with SPR 1 I’m calling the all in bet on the turn… I’m not going to be seeing ghost everywhere and be thinking what if he has aces… If he does bad luck.

But really, I’d say do not limp TT UTG, raise it pre, get it in if UTG+1. My main problem with the hand is that limp. Maybe this is just me, so don’t take it wrong but with the fold on the river the whole hand looks horrible to me, sorry.

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You need about 33% equity to call here. Try putting V on some different ranges and see how you’re doing against them. Of course he could have hands better than yours, but try to think about what he would do with AK, club draws, and smaller pocket pairs and how your equity changes when you include those in his range. You need to start thinking in terms of ranges rather than just going with your gut about whether or not your opponent “has it”.

Also, with this stack size, I’d check-raise flop, especially if you’re not going to be comfortable facing action on any overcard turn.

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Foucault said

Also, with this stack size, I’d check-raise flop, especially if you’re not going to be comfortable facing action on any overcard turn.

@ Andrew:

Check-raise flop will not get V to fold what we are beating? Or you expect action from a pair lower that ours and flush draws?

TT is not a good hand to 3bet preflop as well?

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chaos said
Why are you limp calling TT with 28BB? Why do you say semi deep? I wouldn’t say you are “semi deep” with 28BB.

I would just raise get it in. With the limp call I’m check-shoving the flop, as played with SPR 1 I’m calling the all in bet on the turn… I’m not going to be seeing ghost everywhere and be thinking what if he has aces… If he does bad luck.

But really, I’d say do not limp TT UTG, raise it pre, get it in if UTG+1. My main problem with the hand is that limp. Maybe this is just me, so don’t take it wrong but with the fold on the river the whole hand looks horrible to me, sorry.

First of all i meant semi deep in the tournament not stacks. But i should have written that lol 😛 also i did not limp, another player limped and i called the ISO. Also we are not OTR this is OTT so you must have misread the whole hand. But yeah I definitely agree it was a bad fold 🙂

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Foucault said
You need about 33% equity to call here. Try putting V on some different ranges and see how you’re doing against them. Of course he could have hands better than yours, but try to think about what he would do with AK, club draws, and smaller pocket pairs and how your equity changes when you include those in his range. You need to start thinking in terms of ranges rather than just going with your gut about whether or not your opponent “has it”.

Also, with this stack size, I’d check-raise flop, especially if you’re not going to be comfortable facing action on any overcard turn.

A fistpump call in other words. Yeah i tend to assume the worst too often and hate to call all ins VS heavy action which is a huge leak to say the least. Do you ever jam pre here though?

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almofadinhas said

Foucault said

Also, with this stack size, I’d check-raise flop, especially if you’re not going to be comfortable facing action on any overcard turn.

@ Andrew:

Check-raise flop will not get V to fold what we are beating? Or you expect action from a pair lower that ours and flush draws?

TT is not a good hand to 3bet preflop as well?

He can call with flush draw, 66-99 and sometimes hero call with AK-AQ if he convince himself we have a flush draw. Also if he folds AK-AJ its a pretty good result aswell. IMO 😛

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pokkerheller said

He can call with flush draw, 66-99 and sometimes hero call with AK-AQ if he convince himself we have a flush draw. Also if he folds AK-AJ its a pretty good result aswell. IMO 😛

cbet sizing is weird tow, seems to me V is on two high cards with flush draw, and trying to gii on the flop… put on equilab here, versus AKcc we are 50.40% to win.

Just not sure about his range tow.

pokkerheller, why not  3bet pre?

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almofadinhas said

pokkerheller said
He can call with flush draw, 66-99 and sometimes hero call with AK-AQ if he convince himself we have a flush draw. Also if he folds AK-AJ its a pretty good result aswell. IMO 😛

cbet sizing is weird tow, seems to me V is on two high cards with flush draw, and trying to gii on the flop… 

This is little more than a guess, try to move away from reading so much into sizing and making such narrow reads.

I don’t think your equity against an EP raiser is that great that you should be trying to get in pre.

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