I could go either way on this one. Any reads on how wide villian can be? I like to be first in with 10bb’s and with $400 payjumps especially, dont love jamming behind but there is something to be said for going with it for a chance to get back in the tournament.

Shove and its not even close for me

Ditto.

It’s probably a call but I think this deep in a tournament this big villain’s range is most likely surprisingly tight. I don’t think he has all underpairs in his range and there are plenty of overcard combos he folds. If villain seemed like the kind of player who was scared and wanted to fold up the money, I might fold here. On the other hand, if villain was a solid winning reg, I think it’s a snapcall.

in it goes pretty easy imo, whats his raise first in? much more relevant with these stacks sizes.

over 44 hands he played vp/pfr 8/5 … so he was pretty tight . Range of call with Nash , without ICM , is 77+ AJo+ AJs+ . I repeat without ICM .

Even in that small sample you can tell this guy is waiting for premiums especially UTG. Plus this deep in a SCOOP event, think we are not in great shape. Its easy to say rip it in. Logical thinking given all the info including villian, position, tournament, stack sizes, reads and ICM. Come on guys, its a little close and not just an auto rip.

Duggs, I am fine with getting it in as I stated earlier. Just saying you can definitely argue a fold given all the info. I could go either way and would make the decision based on everything in real time.

im prob ripping this in and giving the dealer a high 5 on the way to the middle

he is UTG but hes also jammin 12bb which we know now a days is not as tight of range it once was…..have you NASHED this?

i feel like im never folding here tho unless hes just super nitty……and god would people stop posting stats unless its a large sample size….basing reads off stats from 44 hands is only going to hurt you very badly

duggs said:

shawnivey said:

im prob ripping this in and giving the dealer a high 5 on the way to the middle

 

he is UTG but hes also jammin 12bb which we know now a days is not as tight of range it once was…..have you NASHED this?

 

i feel like im never folding here tho unless hes just super nitty……and god would people stop posting stats unless its a large sample size….basing reads off stats from 44 hands is only going to hurt you very badly

disagree with the stats comment so so so so strongly, any information is useful, the relative weight you give it in the decision process might lessen but ignoring it is bad. especially in tournaments when some players are lol bad

 

maybe i shouldnt of said ignore, but i think people are focusing way to much on HUD stats for somebody over 30 hands when we should be worried about what the best most logical poker play in the situation is…..yes the stats help to inform us and make quicker decisions in real time, over small samples we can tell if someone is a fish or is decent, but i dont think we should base tightness or raise frequencies off these as it could easily be the run of cards for 30 hands