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September 24, 2015 - 2:53 pm
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Borgata 2M gurantee, $500+60 buy-in,
 
Table extremely lose passive.  Many multi-way pots, people showing down a lot of junk.
 
HERO: white, mid 30s, wearing hoodie (down) and baseball cap, winning image.  
Had only one major SD where HERO raised with 78ss from MP, flopped a flush, bet flop, bet turn, got shoved on the turn by a guy who had QTs (no pair, just T high FD on 3 spade board) and doubled up.
 
Was fairly tight pre-flop so far, but might be viewed on slightly aggressive side by others, due to:
4-bet folded vs ship one hand pre, also 3bet squeezed when Villain flatted in between and took it down w/o SD
 
Villain: Indian, mid 40s, wearing sunglasses.
My read on him was that he was pretty tight post flop.
He pot controlled like crazy.  One hand he checked QQ (OP to the board) behind on turn AND river on super safe board.
 
The hand:
Level:8 blinds 300/600/75
HERO (~40K stack) opens from UTG+1 wiht ATo to 1600 gets called by BU (extremely lose, extremely bad), 
SB folds, Villain in BB (~35K stack) calls.
 
Flop (5,625): AK8r – BB checks, HERO bets 2600, BU calls, BB thinks for a bit, but finally calls
Turn (13,425): Kx – BB checks, HERO bets 6500, BU folds, BB thinks even longer now, but finally calls again.
River (26,425): Tx – BB leads for 5K (has ~20K behind, HERO has about 25K behind)
 
 
What’s our play?
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September 24, 2015 - 5:51 pm
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Call. However, I think betting the turn is a disaster, and I’m actually not wild about the flop bet either. Unless you think your opponents are loose enough that you’re going to three-barrel for value, I think you should check flop and try to get your value on turn and river (though on this particular turn, which is the worst card in the deck for you).

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Thanks so much for your input. It truly was very helpful.

 

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At this particular type of table I’d prob fold ATo pre from ep knowing we’d be playing multiway postflop a lot of the time. Super close though, so I don’t think it’s a mistake necessarily, just my preference. I’d be opening every suited ace from that stack depth though.

I like the flop bet into two guys to protect your hand a bit, especially vs these villians where both opponents should have a pretty wide range.

I agree that the turn bet is a disaster and at this point we definitely want to keep the pot as small as possible. There’s not much to protect against, we’re almost never getting value from worse on the turn and river and the K turn hits both your opponents ranges pretty hard.

When this type of villain calls the turn and leads the river, I think he’s super strong and I’d be really surprised if he ever has worse then a K as there’s really no possible bluffs he can have. You’re turn bet put you in a bad spot on the river, and even though you’re getting a really good price, I think the river is a fold. I think we’re good here way less then 20% of the time.     

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As played we have to call getting 5 to 1 here.. But probably knowing he is taking us to Value Town or a block bet with AQ/AJ which still becomes a value Bet in this scenario.. But KQ/KJ are def in his defending range there considering the PF action. I might even include 88 in his range, with a RB flop he might let you just bet away or we are getting into leveling ourselves at that point. I also agree that opening AT UTG at this particular table considering the action, is not the best spot. Cbet the flop there looks strong and is ok there as played. IMO you should be Pot controlling on the Turn for sure and we save ourselves 6,500 and still have 40+/- BB losing the Min, that is if we call the river, which we are calling for 1/5 of the pot. Just don’t ever think this player is leading the river w/o the best hand.

Cheers!

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