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River decision: full house or bluff?
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May 28, 2015 - 6:23 pm
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Poker Stars, $4 Buy-in (20/40 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players

Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager – The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

 

SB: 2,195 (54.9 bb)

Hero (BB): 3,354 (83.9 bb)

UTG+2: 2,048 (51.2 bb)

MP1: 2,925 (73.1 bb)

MP2: 5,476 (136.9 bb)

MP3: 2,678 (67 bb)

CO: 3,427 (85.7 bb)

BTN: 1,610 (40.3 bb)

 

Preflop: Hero is BB with Qh 7h

6 folds, SB raises to 80, Hero calls 40

 

Flop: (160) 3s As 7d (2 players)

SB bets 120, Hero calls 120

 

Turn: (400) 3h (2 players)

SB bets 300, Hero calls 300

 

River: (1,000) Tc (2 players)

SB bets 1,695 and is all-in, Hero ???

 

$4.40 PSKO on Pokerstars. 57 hands in and I’ve been playing classic TAG, not got out of line. Still very deep. Only played 7 hands with villain who is in the small blind, and not seen anything unusual. Pre-flop he minraises from the small blind and I call with Q7s. His range is obviously wide but we are pre-ante so I don’t think he’ll be ridiculously loose here. Pocket pairs, suited gappers and one gappers, high cards etc.

 

Flop is A73, two spades, and villain bets 75% pot. None of my suit came up so I have no backdoor draws, just my 7. He is repping an ace so he either has one or he doesn’t. So I call to see what we do on the turn. Raising is overplaying my hand and I want to keep the pot small. Folding to one bet with middle pair blind vs blind seems weak.

 

Turn is another 3 and again villain bets ¾ pot. I felt like this was my decision point. I think an ace with a weak kicker is probably either betting smaller or checking, rather than building a big pot as my call on the flop means I likely have some showdown value, or a flush draw. He could be betting big to price out a flush draw, but the sizing makes me think he is probably on a draw himself and wants me to fold. It feels a bit polarising.  Again I think I am good enough to call again and see a river card. If he has an ace he will probably slow down a bit on the river? I think betting big twice rules out pocket pairs. A set may take this line if he thinks I have an ace. But other than that it is ace or flush draw probably. He should be aware though that if I called the flop I have no reason not to call turn so he has a piece.

 

River was a Tc which looks a blank, but if he is barrelling a flush draw he may have caught it. This time he shoves 1695 into 1000. He doesn’t have me covered so he’s not going for the bounty. At this point I am wondering, what does he think I have? I have called two big bets so I obviously have something. Maybe my hand is face up as a middle pair because I did not raise. But what hands does he have that are strong enough to bet twice and then shove?

 

Most aces are out I think. AK/A7/A3 and maybe AT do this but I think other aces slow down at some point. And if he does have an ace, he should know it is hard for me to have one and I think he bets smaller on the river to go for value from them as I’m unlikely to call a shove with A8 for example.

 

He could definitely have played full houses this way, and shoved thinking I have an ace I can’t fold.

 

All weaker hands with showdown value probably check or bet smaller, unless he is a smart villain trying to get me to fold a weak ace and turning his hand into a bluff, but I don’t think I can give a villain at this level that much credit without reads.

 

And then the other hand he plays this way are missed flush draws. If he has a flush draw I think we can rule out him having the 7s or Ts as he might just try and get those to showdown. Something like KQ/KJ spades could be played this way as it did feel like he wanted me to fold throughout the hand.

 

So I think it is missed spades or a full house?

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Well, maybe you are better on hand reading, Id say it could be any full, two pair, any 3, maybe even a good ace. You frequently often see them played like that in low stakes tourneys. Based on that action, its an easy fold, just not profitable calling off three streets (or even two streets) with such a bad hand, esp. not in early phase small stakes tourneys on nitstars. Whatever he has, if he is capable of pulling off a triple barrel bluff here you just gotta give it to him, 90+% of the time you will run into a hand here that has you crushed.

The main street I disagree here is the turn, I do not see what calling accomplishes, your hand is weak and a lot of rivers are bad for you. Either give up right there or try to take it away.

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