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August 25, 2014
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PokerStars - $5+$0.50|75/150 Ante 20 NL - Holdem - 9 players Hand converted by PokerTracker 4 Gilmanov86 (UTG): 30.57 BB (VPIP: 24.07, PFR: 20.75, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 55) Yogi4774 (UTG+1): 28.71 BB (VPIP: 21.95, PFR: 7.32, 3Bet Preflop: 4.76, Hands: 41) Nikolay1968 (MP): 101.14 BB (VPIP: 18.52, PFR: 16.25, 3Bet Preflop: 6.06, Hands: 81) lentilha007 (MP+1): 19.87 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1) SereJkee94 (MP+2): 18.93 BB (VPIP: 14.69, PFR: 14.53, 3Bet Preflop: 7.89, Hands: 178) kingnl1 (CO): 76.49 BB (VPIP: 37.74, PFR: 29.41, 3Bet Preflop: 11.76, Hands: 53) punktmatze (BTN): 42.79 BB (VPIP: 14.63, PFR: 2.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 41) indrich (SB): 13.93 BB (VPIP: 7.25, PFR: 4.48, 3Bet Preflop: 3.45, Hands: 69) mjdsk8 (BB): 91.62 BB 9 players post ante of 0.13 BB, indrich posts SB 0.5 BB, mjdsk8 posts BB 1 BB Pre Flop: (pot: 2.7 BB) mjdsk8 has QT
fold, Yogi4774 calls 1 BB, Nikolay1968 calls 1 BB, fold, fold, kingnl1 calls 1 BB, fold, indrich calls 0.5 BB, mjdsk8 checks Flop: (6.2 BB, 5 players) K
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indrich checks, mjdsk8 checks, Yogi4774 checks, [color=red]Nikolay1968 bets 2.5 BB[/color], fold, fold, mjdsk8 calls 2.5 BB, fold Turn: (11.2 BB, 2 players) J
August 25, 2014
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I think this is a decent hand to check raise bluff here as he should bet most of his Jx on the turn and we block AT, QQ and JQ. I'm pretty sure once he bets this river our hand is never good. Is that likely to be right? Villain is playing 19/16 over 81 hands. w$wsf is 73% (8/11) so he's has a clue but seems over agg.
Thoughts on this hand? Too fancy for the Bigger 5.50? Thoughts on sizing? Looking back, I'm not delighted that he's getting 2-1 and might prefer a bigger raise
November 24, 2013
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Yes, I agree you're rarely good here when he bet river but there's also not much you can do about it the way the hand played out. The problem with your CR is that you're repping exactly the kind of hand that you have, a missed flush or straight draw. I mean what strong hand could you possibly have that checked the BB, CC flop, C turn, C river and then suddenly raised? Any legit hand would have started betting earlier, especially since you're quite deep.
Also: W$WSF of 11 hands means nothing
August 25, 2014
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What monsters can he have after checking the turn? It's not like I checked back in position. I could be going for a check raise on turn? I don't see why I can't have KJ, QJ – I'm probably not x/r them on flop to get in 90bb 3way as they'll just fold worse hands.
August 25, 2014
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Also if he bets all his Jx or better on the turn, I could check raise any Jx on this river for value. Not saying I would or that I would play it that way every time but it is feasible after he caps his range on the turn that I could x/r river with AJ, J9, J8
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December 6, 2012
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I like the creativity, but I don't agree that checking turn has to cap Villain's range. I don't know that I'd want to go for a check-raise on the river if I had a big hand, either. Especially at smaller stakes, most players aren't very good at making thin value bets, which makes check-raising rivers less appealing generally. You're right that this is a good candidate for your bluffing range, but even if you are going to have a check-raising range, I can imagine not having any bluffs in it for exploitive reasons in a $5 tournament. I mean, presumably you're trying to make him fold top pair for one bet on the river, right?
August 25, 2014
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What do you think the best hand he checks back on the turn is? AT? Is he checking many Jx? I understand what you mean about it being a $5 tournament but I will add thats it's the Bigger $5.50 on a Sunday and a lot of good players will play this and the big 8.80,$11 sunday storm etc just because its around $8k for 1st. So there is a chance he might bet-fold AK
August 25, 2014
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but i do agree with all the other stuff about how i should play my range
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December 6, 2012
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michaeldi11on said:
What do you think the best hand he checks back on the turn is? AT? Is he checking many Jx? I understand what you mean about it being a $5 tournament but I will add thats it's the Bigger $5.50 on a Sunday and a lot of good players will play this and the big 8.80,$11 sunday storm etc just because its around $8k for 1st. So there is a chance he might bet-fold AK
I don't see why he couldn't/shouldn't check some QJ/KJ.
August 25, 2014
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I just don't think he bets 2.5bb into 6bb on a connected board with a flush draw on it and checks back the near nuts on the turn. I don't think he'd expects me to fold anything on the turn (Kx, oesd+pairs, fd's). Players in the Big 5.50 sometimes go nuts with 0 equity so from his point of view, he probably wants to get as much money in as possible, especially as the aggressor in position.
I doubt he's worried about looking too strong and balancing his range here, especially on the button vs BB. Maybe I'm wrong on this
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