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February 2, 2015
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Live Tourney
Blinds 100/200
All players involved have stacks of 70-100 BB
Hero dealt K
7
CO – V1 – limps 200
Button – Hero – limps 200
SB folds
BB – V2 – checks
(700) Flop – 37
8
V2 – bets 500
V1 – calls 500
Hero – raise to 2000
V2 folds
V1 calls
(5200) Turn 8
V1 checks
Hero bets 5000
V1 folds
Bet sizing is larger than what I am normally comfortable with using, but the players in this game were calling stations and I thought the larger bet sizing might get their attention instead of them just blindly calling a smaller raise. Does it make sense to use this larger sizing in a multi-way pot so that they may actually fold some of their draws and one pair hands? It seemed to work here, but I don't want to be results oriented based on just this hand.
Both villians commented that they thought I flopped a set and turned a boat (this told me a lot about what my image was currently at the table). V2 admitted he folded an 8 on the flop after I showed my hand (i play with these players several times a week and sometimes I show to help manage my table image one way or the other).
April 30, 2015
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A few concerns regarding pre-flop. May I know why you didn't raise or fold the button and why you chose to limp? It is a non-standard play from you which is totally fine as long as you have a viable explanation and you are convinced it is the right play here.
The bet sizing on the flop and turn are also a little high, which is where I am having more questions if I were one of the villains. I can't fathom a reasonable hand range for you that wants to pot control pre-flop by not raising, and build a big pot post flop with almost pot-size bets. If you had 33 or 77 or 88, I should have heard from you preflop as when you limped the button, you were potentially going to the flop 4-handed (SB hadn't folded yet). Your big raise on the flop seems a little bluffy to me, and the best hand I can put you on here is may be 87 or a good 8.
When the 8 comes on the turn and you are betting pot (pot was 5200 on the turn??), it makes me think you definitely don't have the 8. If you boated up, you want value from someone if they are holding an 8, so you might bet smaller? Or if you are a really good player, you know I have an 8 and you want me to think your bet is bluffy and you want me to call off my stack? Early on in the tournament, I am not folding trips on a rainbow board on the turn.
Bottomline, from my mind, your big bets on the flop and turn seem to me to be more bluffy or not better than one pair. If you got away on that spot on the turn and the villain definitely had an 8, then it must be his impression of your table image.. I for sure can't get away with such a play in my casino if I were in your spot.
November 18, 2013
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Both villains are in the blinds, so initially their range is basically ATC.
When V2 flats the bet from the SB, he could have an 8, a 7, draws like T9, 96 or 65 or rarely pairs lower than 7. It seems unlikely he would pass up the two chances to raise 2pr+.
On the turn, I am not sure why you're trying to blow villain off the hand. You're thinking of it as a bluff, when it could be a value bet. If you are bluffing, what better hands do you think are in his range that he will fold? Trip 8s isn't folding. There's a small chance he has 99 or TT and decided to check preflop, flat the donk bet and call your raise. He might have A7. Those are the only better hands I can see in his range, and they seem a small percentage.
The rest of his range are 7s with worse kickers lower pairs and straight draws. So you're probably ahead of much of his holdings. It's true that hand like T9o has 14 outs against you, but his 7x hands have at best 3 outs (plus an ace to chop). Betting 3000 gives him the wrong odds for the draw and builds the pot for you for the 75% of the time you miss. It also costs you less if he does have an 8 and goes for a check-raise on the turn.
April 30, 2015
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TheClubber –
“Trip 8s isn't folding” – Seems from the write-up that the villain said he folded an 8 to the 5000 bet. I don't understand villain's line here as well 
. I assume he was lying to the face with a gutshot.
November 18, 2013
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navinbits said:
TheClubber –
“Trip 8s isn't folding” – Seems from the write-up that the villain said he folded an 8 to the 5000 bet. I don't understand villain's line here as well
I thought he folded the V2 off one 8 before he tripped up. We don't know what V1 folded.
April 30, 2015
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TheClubber – my bad. You read it right.
February 2, 2015
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Yeah, V2 was BB and said he folded top pair on the flop to my reraise before the 2nd 8 hit the board on the turn. I can believe he may do this with a weak kicker since V1 in the CO also had position on him and had already called his donk bet as well.
Preflop limp was more of a situational thing for pot control. Normally I would be raising or folding in this situation, but these players were calling stations which makes it harder for me to take down the pot preflop. They view a preflop raise from the button as a standard steal move and is therefore something they are likely calling with their full limping range. With K7 I'm usually not going to be thrilled with the flop so I knew that I would often be bluffing and/or using my position to take down this pot. In cases like this I like to keep the pot smaller so I'm not risking as much to do so.
Because of the above reasoning, I would likely do the same with 33, 77, and 88 so his read really wasn't that far off. I felt V1 in the cutoff had several hands in his range that he might be willing to fold like 99-JJ, AQs, AKs 45s, 56s, 67s which is why I decided to continue strong on the turn.
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