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Raise War vs SuperLAG, $60 Midweek Monster on Merge
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FloppedBackdoorTrips
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July 12, 2012 - 7:09 pm
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Hey guys,

 

So this hand basically decided my tournament, and I can't figure out if there was something I should have done differently.  Unfortunately, my RPM deletes my hands daily, so I don't have the HH (forgot to make backups last night), but I should be able to write it clearly enough.

 

Blinds are 60/120, no ante, starting stacks were 5K (about 5 levels in).

 

My stack is 5.5K, villain covers me with about 11K.

 

My image is super tight, playing about a 17/7, with all of my hands played coming in either the CO or the button.

 

Villain has been playing all kinds of hands, and has been ridiculously aggressive.

 

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Preflop

Hero raises UTG to 240 w/AQo.  Villain flats in MP1 (UTG+3), all else fold.

 

Flop (Pot = 660): T  T  6  (rainbow)

Hero bets 375, Villain raises to 1K, Hero raises to 2K, Villain insta-jams, Hero tanks, folds.

 

Preflop is obviously standard.

 

Postflop, I just didn't believe his raise, given how he'd been playing and the flop texture.  Folding would have been way too weak of a play, and calling seems suicidal, so I thought a 2K raise was fine, and probably what I would do if I had QQ+

 

His quick jam told me that he was planning the whole time to jam if I raised…but with what?  I really thought about calling, since with the action AQ was just about as good as QQ in this spot.

 

My dilemma:

-His value range doesn't really make sense.  It just seems silly for him to be raising 66 or Tx on this flop.  The only other possibility would be a slowplayed KK+ preflop, OR he's just completely tooling out with like an 88, but it didn't seem like he was THAT terrible.

 

-On the other hand, I rep QQ+, I played it like QQ+, I have a super tight image, and how can he be expecting me to fold that range here?

 

I really have no idea what's going on in this hand, wondered what you guys thought.

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July 12, 2012 - 10:41 pm
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Bumping this up, it kind of got buried 🙁

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I'll be honest I'm pretty confused what villian is doing in this hand as well.  Were there a lot of squeeze stacks behind at your table?  Was the table playing really aggro?  Those would all be cause for reason to believe he flatted here with a monster QQ+ thinking someone was going to get out of line behind.  Wouldn't you just be flatting his raise on flop with QQ+?  The board probably doesnt hit his range a ton and there arent that many scary turn cards right?

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Cougars4444 said:

Wouldn't you just be flatting his raise on flop with QQ+?

Yeah, the more I thought about it, the more I thought this was a big problem with my line.

 

At the time I remember thinking that I didn't want to flat, incase he just jammed turn.  But that's probably a little monsters-under-the-bedish.

 

Also, I'm pretty sure there weren't many squeeze stacks behind, if there were any, since we were pretty early on in the tourney.

 

In retrospect flatting looks RIDICULOUSLY strong, so that probably should've been the play.

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This is really just a spot im usually going to let the villain have it when i have air. for every person that raises this flop as a bluff there are 9players who will fold their air to a standard c-bet. If you have an overpair here I'm just going to flat the flop raise and evaluate turn, but probably never fold unless he is really nitty and would be raising a 10 on the flop. Some players will just take this line with like 22-55, 77-99, and/or jj and you will still be drawing to 6 outs. If there were ante's in play deeper in the tournament i wouldnt be so likely to just give the pot up. You will be getting played back at more, and the size of the pots are larger so its more worth it to go after it.

 

This just doesn't seem like a good spot to accumulate chips when you can fold and still have 40bb to continue with.

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