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Raise light ; flop a monster
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January 26, 2012 - 5:40 pm
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Very happy with the replies to my first post ; here's another :

 

Poker Stars $15.00+$1.50 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t125/t250 Blinds + t30
– 8 players TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

SB: BB = 15.4, t3852
BB: BB = 43.2, t10799
UTG: BB = 28.6, t7148
Hero (UTG+1): BB = 112.9, t28234
MP1: BB = 113.8, t28447
MP2: BB = 81.2, t20308
CO: BB = 59.0, t14746
BTN: BB = 32.5, t8137

Pre Flop: (t615) Hero is UTG+1 with T of diamonds Q of diamonds
1 fold, Hero raises to t555, 1 fold, MP2 calls t555, 4 folds

Flop: (t1725) Q of hearts J of diamonds K of diamonds (2 players)
Hero bets t1000, MP2 calls t1000

Turn: (t3725) T of spades (2 players)

Only had the villain at my table for 3 hands.

What do I do on this turn ?      And my plan on a blank river ?

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January 26, 2012 - 7:21 pm
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 i'd check call both streets

 

 

 

 

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agree with bada – you have to check call turn for pot control..

leading turn and getting raised would be awful since the pot gets bloated OOP and we have so much showdown value. so keep the pot small and evaluate river

 

BUT if villains fires turn and again fires river i think i'd just check fold

i cant really see any hand that we beat that plays the call-bet-bet line?

every other non straight hand he has will check behind the river (KQ, KJ, QJ) and all of the pure bluffs like 87s or 55 would have to be pretty sick to float this flop to take it away on the turn and river

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January 26, 2012 - 10:47 pm
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     Considering he has the stack size to hurt you, I would probably check the turn and call a reasonable bet. Even though you have a lot of outs with the straight, flush, full-house draw. He could have already gotten there with a hand that would be in many player's range for MP calling for roughly 2 to 1 pre-flopI want to see the river for as cheap as possible. Even though it is tough I am prepared to check/fold if need be. Chances are he is holding some type of ace and you want to make sure you can beat the straight before going crazy.

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Hmmm… to avoid a tough river decision I think I would barrel the turn again for 1/3 pot and call a raise, knowing that he most likely has the ace if he raises, yet we still have a ton of equity heading to river. Check the river if we do miss, and if he fires again he just has to have the Ace all day unless he makes a soul read bluff. Think this will be a much easier way to play this hand. You are super deep here so i don't think pot will get overly bloated here on the turn if he raises. As when we do nail our hand those times on the river the pot is a bit bigger and we can bet close to pot /pot and make him call with the straight getting max value.

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DannyN13 said:

Hmmm… to avoid a tough river decision I think I would barrel the turn again for 1/3 pot and call a raise, knowing that he most likely has the ace if he raises, yet we still have a ton of equity heading to river. Check the river if we do miss, and if he fires again he just has to have the Ace all day unless he makes a soul read bluff. Think this will be a much easier way to play this hand. You are super deep here so i don't think pot will get overly bloated here on the turn if he raises. As when we do nail our hand those times on the river the pot is a bit bigger and we can bet close to pot /pot and make him call with the straight getting max value.

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Really like this play. You get a small value bet off, which shows strength, your only getting called or raised by the ace.  If you just get called you have the river to improve. I prefer this to just a turn check.  

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Agree with others. This is kind of a cool hand. Curious how it went down.

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Yeah, I also like the smallish bet on the turn. I think check/call makes it super obvious that you don't have the ace and so if he has somehow floated the flop then it will give him a chance to take this away on the river. Not really folding to any sensible raise on the turn as you have 19 outs. If he raises the turn then I am check/folding a brick on the river, if he calls then I think a blocker bet could be best on the river. Bet for max value if we do hit.

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hawkeyeK9 said:

Agree with others. This is kind of a cool hand. Curious how it went down.

Same here!

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