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QQ overpair facing river shove - call or fold?
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April 25, 2011 - 4:38 am
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Villain was new to the table and I had no reads.

 

Poker Stars $4.00+$0.40 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t75/t150 Blinds + t20 – 4 players – View hand 1288688
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

Hero (BB): BB = 123.7, t18554
GAIAP07 (CO): BB = 135.0, t20250
Barbafinast (BTN): BB = 30.2, t4533
Mystiske (SB): BB = 242.9, t36433

Pre Flop: (t305) Hero is BB with Q of hearts Q of spades
GAIAP07 raises to t300, 2 folds, Hero raises to t900, GAIAP07 calls t600

Flop: (t1955) 8 of spades 6 of clubs J of clubs (2 players)
Hero bets t1050, GAIAP07 calls t1050

Turn: (t4055) 7 of diamonds (2 players)
Hero bets t1800, GAIAP07 raises to t3600, Hero calls t1800

River: (t11255) 7 of spades (2 players)
Hero checks, GAIAP07 bets t14680 all in, Hero ?

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April 25, 2011 - 10:19 am
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YuK! I think you are beat here. He's repping a set or possibly 9T. He either really likes his hand or is just taking adv. of your river check but either way that deep I'm folding.

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April 25, 2011 - 11:21 am
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 I think you played this hand well, maybe a bit more of a raise on the flop as he just about has the odds to call with a flush draw with overs. If he called like 1450 with no info on him I would proably then put him on AJ, JJ, 66, 88 which would then raise the question of why didn't he rr to push the flush draws out.

 As played tho I would leave the flush draw in his range and maybe 910. I would expect a rr from him with AJ, 88 or 66 maybe JJ (but alot of people slow play big trips too tho).

I think on the turn when he rr'es leaves his range at JJ,AJ,910,77. The problem is he leaves it too cheap to fold here for me so I would still call.

On the river I would have discarded all chances of a unmade flush draw except the 910c. I think by now you'r only winning to AJ or a doubtfull KJ or QJ. The other hands I would put him on now are the JJ,910,77,66,88 which you are easily losing too, so I would fold here and still be in a decent position. 

 I would play this hand differently with info on the player, but untill I know differently I normally think as all players as pretty solid players until they show me differently.

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April 25, 2011 - 8:05 pm
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flop sizing is fine imo

 

on the turn, you could possibly get away from the hand because i dont really see what he calls flop and min raises turn with that you beat. i dont think he ever does this with AJ. 

 

so folding turn is tough but possible, but i think a check fold on the river is the correct play, i doubt this is ever a busted flush draw. looks like a set to me

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April 26, 2011 - 9:44 am
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I check fold the river with a filthy look on my faceconfused

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April 26, 2011 - 1:52 pm
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I don't think too many people min-raise on the come with draws here at this buy-in level so your turn spot is a fairly standard WA/WB spot (way ahead/way behind) and it's where your decision needs to be made. 

I don't think it's good to flat the turn min-raise since you'll be check/folding to a lot of river cards without knowing if your hand was good. 

Since we're readless I really think a fold is in order … 

A 262 bb pot is rarely won with a single pair and I feel comfortable saying this isn't one of those spots where it's good. 

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April 26, 2011 - 5:03 pm
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I just don't think the villain is ever bluffing here..I feel that he has rivered the boat and overjamming to look wide.  I fold as well and move on to the next hand.

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April 27, 2011 - 1:53 pm
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Thanks for the feedback guys.

It felt like a set to me, so I did fold and he showed a bluff (Qc 10h).

 

 

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April 27, 2011 - 2:35 pm
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Think you played it perfect. I would fold this every time, you still have a big stack and his range is 90% nuts 10% bluff.

WP

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April 27, 2011 - 2:37 pm
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… If you didnt put a note on him that he is capable of this then this is the only reason I would say that you played bad…

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