Home
(0 votes) 
June 2, 2013
Offline
Full Tilt, 20/40 blinds No Limit Hold’em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager – The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.
SB: 4,030 (100.8 bb)
BB: 5,657 (141.4 bb)
UTG+1: 5,000 (125 bb)
UTG+2: 16,257 (406.4 bb)
Hero (MP1): 5,000 (125 bb)
MP2: 242 (6.1 bb)
MP3: 5,320 (133 bb)
CO: 10,975 (274.4 bb)
BTN: 14,900 (372.5 bb)
Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q
Q
2 folds, Hero raises to 120, MP2 folds, MP3 calls 120, CO folds, BTN calls 120, SB folds, BB calls 80
Flop: (500) 9
6
3 (4 players)
BB checks, Hero bets 300, MP3 calls 300, BTN calls 300, BB folds
Turn: (1,400) A (3 players)
Hero bets 700, MP3 calls 700, BTN calls 700
River: (3,500) 7 (3 players)
Hero checks, MP3 checks, BTN bets 3,500, Hero folds, MP3 calls 3,500
Hello!
I played this pot today, got really confused with their ranges… the MP3 guy is “uaredeadlol” who I thought was a decent reg, when I start to play I see him everywhere, maybe I am confusing him with someone else…
Pre flop and flop I think is pretty starndard, OTT I thought about shutting it down, two calls on a dry board, set maybe? but i cbet again, not sure if is good to rep that ace, thoughts? OTR I had enough.
I will post the hands for this one later. 
December 30, 2015
Offline
I think multi-way I just c/c the turn thinking someone probably does have an A. BTN may have called getting odds on a draw being last-to-act after a bet and a call, whereas they may have folded if MP3 was the initial raiser, facing a squeeze.
The pot is already pretty big so once we get 2 calls on the flop and then see an overcard I just want to get to showdown
On the river I check and only call in specific scenarios since a ton of straights and 2-pair hands loved the river. If MP3 had bet the turn and we are now HU, then there is a good chance he has a weak A or middle pair and will just check their show-down value. If both players are still around on the river I don’t think we are ahead any more.
June 2, 2013
Offline
MovieFX said
I think multi-way I just c/c the turn thinking someone probably does have an A.
You think some of them have Ax for only a pair of A, or two pairs with an A OTT?
And how often you give them an A OTT? if is a very high % is not better to check fold turn?
December 30, 2015
Offline
almofadinhas said
MovieFX said
I think multi-way I just c/c the turn thinking someone probably does have an A.You think some of them have Ax for only a pair of A, or two pairs with an A OTT?
And how often you give them an A OTT? if is a very high % is not better to check fold turn?
I think there are As in their PF calling ranges. I don’t know if any as low as A9 specifically (maybe one of the late callers if suited perhaps), but does it matter?
I say c/c because I don’t know for sure. I think it is just probable. But, sure, c/f could be fine I think.
Will be interesting to hear what the pros think.
June 2, 2013
Offline
MovieFX said
I think there are As in their PF calling ranges. I don’t know if any as low as A9 specifically (maybe one of the late callers if suited perhaps), but does it matter?
PF I agree with Ax, suited most often, OTF you think they will call with A high? no pair OTF (A9, A6 or A3)? I discount most of Axs because there is no flush draw, calling flop with a A high multiway pot seems optimistic to me… not sure if I should tow…
December 30, 2015
Offline
Sure, I think 2 overs float a lot.
TPE Pro
December 6, 2012
Offline
MovieFX said
Sure, I think 2 overs float a lot.
I don’t know about that – why would someone just randomly call here with AT? – but I agree that Hero should not keep betting. Check turn, fold to a big bet, call a one small enough to come from a worse hand. I also don’t see what OP thinks he’s gaining by “repping the Ace”? As played, definitely don’t call river. Really seems to me that OP just fell in love with the Queens pre-flop and then didn’t adjust his thinking about them based on the post-flop action.
February 20, 2015
Offline
Few other questions about this hand.
What type of preflop raises have been getting through? Almost everyone is so deep that would you consider an even bigger raise preflop and a larger bet (as a percentage of the pot) on the flop? If you do that, and you still have that many opponents on the turn, it is easier for me to let it go when the ace falls. Yes, you’re building a larger pot to give up on, but you built it while you were ahead of more of their respective ranges.
But if 3x raises were getting through before, then obv. that’s the best you can do, and you just have an unlucky number of V’s here. (In other words, the high number of preflop callers is just variance.)
June 2, 2013
Offline
Foucault said
I also don’t see what OP thinks he’s gaining by “repping the Ace”? As played, definitely don’t call river. Really seems to me that OP just fell in love with the Queens pre-flop and then didn’t adjust his thinking about them based on the post-flop action.
I bet to rep that A because I imagine Vs could be calling with some sort of pocket pairs, but I agree that I should not keep barreling.
Results: 10,500 pot
Final Board: 9 6 3 A 7
Hero mucked Q Q and lost (-1,120 net)
MP3 showed A 5 and won 10,500 (5,880 net)
BTN showed 7 4 and lost (-4,620 net)
June 2, 2013
Offline
joelshitshow said
Few other questions about this hand.What type of preflop raises have been getting through? Almost everyone is so deep that would you consider an even bigger raise preflop and a larger bet (as a percentage of the pot) on the flop? If you do that, and you still have that many opponents on the turn, it is easier for me to let it go when the ace falls. Yes, you’re building a larger pot to give up on, but you built it while you were ahead of more of their respective ranges.
But if 3x raises were getting through before, then obv. that’s the best you can do, and you just have an unlucky number of V’s here. (In other words, the high number of preflop callers is just variance.)
I tried few times to bet bigger, 3x by default and + 1bb per limper, but that didn´t work well, the pot get too big, and I keep making mistakes putting people on ranges, if I go 4x people don´t call anymore. I am studing post flop yet, but I keep making mistakes post flop, I will finish my month on TPE and take some time to study it on cash games, I was improving there, but it was super boring.
Most Users Ever Online: 2780
Currently Online:
50 Guest(s)
Currently Browsing this Page:
1 Guest(s)
Top Posters:
bennymacca: 2616
Foucault: 2067
folding_aces_pre_yo: 1133
praetor: 1033
theginger45: 924
P-aire 146: 832
Turbulence: 768
The Riceman: 731
duggs: 591
florianm1: 588
Newest Members:
Tillery999
sdmathis89
ne0x00
adrianvaida2525
Anteeater
Laggro
Forum Stats:
Groups: 4
Forums: 24
Topics: 12705
Posts: 75003
Member Stats:
Guest Posters: 1063
Members: 12008
Moderators: 2
Admins: 5
Administrators: RonFezBuddy, Killingbird, Tournament Poker Edge Staff, ttwist, Carlos
Moderators: sitelock, sitelock_1
