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Q/Q in BB facing lots of action
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February 13, 2011 - 4:00 pm
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$22 1r1. No real solid reads on anyone. Haven't noticed anyone getting out of line.

Poker Stars $20 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t100/t200 Blinds – 9 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

odetti (MP1): t5710 28.55 BBs
custom_k (MP2): t5000 25 BBs
joli77 (CO): t16100 80.50 BBs
xxFREAKxx (BTN): t11315 56.58 BBs
stonebroker (SB): t13365 66.83 BBs
Hero (BB): t15605 78.03 BBs
4kopLand4 (UTG): t5935 29.68 BBs
beaneh (UTG+1): t6415 32.08 BBs
Vienna Bundy (UTG+2): t13487 67.44 BBs

Pre Flop: (t300) Hero is BB with Q of hearts Q of diamonds
4kopLand4 raises to t625, 3 folds, custom_k raises to t5000 all in, 1 fold, xxFREAKxx raises to t11315 all in, Hero?

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February 13, 2011 - 4:01 pm
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I was planning on stacking off here until the button jammed. Then I had to tank for a while and re-evaluate.

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February 13, 2011 - 5:46 pm
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I fold the QQ's here, you've got a nice stack here and judging from the action so far in the hand (and your read on the table) I think your up against the AA's or KK's here, best case is AK which you're flipping with.

 

I fold here, thinking what a waste of my QQ's, but knowing it's the right thing to do.

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February 13, 2011 - 7:12 pm
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If you think that you have a edge over most of the feild fold here str8 away, you can find better spots and run deeper then getting into a spot this early and hoping at worse its a flip.

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February 13, 2011 - 8:24 pm
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southpaw_r32 said:

I fold the QQ's here, you've got a nice stack here and judging from the action so far in the hand (and your read on the table) I think your up against the AA's or KK's here, best case is AK which you're flipping with.

 

I fold here, thinking what a waste of my QQ's, but knowing it's the right thing to do.


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February 13, 2011 - 8:51 pm
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even if we give both guys super wide 20% ranges, this is pretty marginal (54% for us) 

 

if we tighten their ranges up to 10%, then we have 47% equity. 

 

so if they are opening super wide then this is marginally +EV but still pretty damn high variance, which means its a pretty easy fold for mine. 

 

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt
  24,291,612  games    11.953 secs     2,032,260  games/sec
Board: 
Dead:  
equity win tie      pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 22.964%   22.19% 00.78%       5389283   189712.33   { 66+, A4s+, K8s+, Q9s+, J9s+, T9s, A9o+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }
Hand 1: 22.964%   22.19% 00.78%       5389165   189894.67   { 66+, A4s+, K8s+, Q9s+, J9s+, T9s, A9o+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }
Hand 2: 54.072%   53.59% 00.49%      13018566   118434.17   { QdQh }

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt
  24,291,612  games    11.953 secs     2,032,260  games/sec
Board: Dead:  
equity win tie      pots won pots tied Hand 0: 22.964%   22.19% 00.78%       5389283   189712.33   { 66+, A4s+, K8s+, Q9s+, J9s+, T9s, A9o+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }Hand 1: 22.964%   22.19% 00.78%       5389165   189894.67   { 66+, A4s+, K8s+, Q9s+, J9s+, T9s, A9o+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }Hand 2: 54.072%   53.59% 00.49%      13018566   118434.17   { QdQh }

 

 

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

 

  21,251,068  games    11.032 secs     1,926,311  games/sec

 

Board: 

Dead:  

 

equity win tie      pots won pots tied

Hand 0: 26.358%   25.21% 01.15%       5357283   244896.50   { 88+, A9s+, KTs+, QTs+, AJo+, KQo }

Hand 1: 26.344%   25.20% 01.15%       5354230   244904.33   { 88+, A9s+, KTs+, QTs+, AJo+, KQo }

Hand 2: 47.298%   46.57% 00.74%       9896634   156291.83   { QdQh }

 

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February 14, 2011 - 9:26 pm
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Here are the results. Figured it was right, just wanted to get some other perspectives.

 

Poker Stars $20 No Limit Hold'em Tournament – t100/t200 Blinds – 9 players
TournamentPokerEdge.com Hand History Converter

odetti (MP1): t5710 28.55 BBs
custom_k (MP2): t5000 25 BBs
joli77 (CO): t16100 80.50 BBs
xxFREAKxx (BTN): t11315 56.58 BBs
stonebroker (SB): t13365 66.83 BBs
Hero (BB): t15605 78.03 BBs
4kopLand4 (UTG): t5935 29.68 BBs
beaneh (UTG+1): t6415 32.08 BBs
Vienna Bundy (UTG+2): t13487 67.44 BBs

Pre Flop: (t300) Hero is BB with Q of hearts Q of diamonds
4kopLand4 raises to t625, 3 folds, custom_k raises to t5000 all in, 1 fold, xxFREAKxx raises to t11315 all in, 2 folds, 4kopLand4 calls t5310 all in

Flop: (t17170) 3 of clubs A of spades 8 of diamonds (3 players – 3 are all in)

Turn: (t17170) 7 of hearts (3 players – 3 are all in)

River: (t17170) J of spades (3 players – 3 are all in)

Final Pot: t17170
custom_k shows 9h 9d (a pair of Nines)
xxFREAKxx shows Kd Kh (a pair of Kings)
4kopLand4 shows Ks Ac (a pair of Aces)
4kopLand4 wins t1870
4kopLand4 wins t15300

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February 14, 2011 - 9:32 pm
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I am laying this one down preflop with all that action before me.

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Hate having to fold Queens pre but this is def the time where ya gotta do it.

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